Spotnose question

[PaysonHobbyist]

Hello all,

I have been trying to figure out a couple things about the spotnose and am wondering if anyone can simplify it for me.

First, is the Spotnose part of the spider complex?

Second do they have a head wobble normally or only in the super form?

Thank you for your help.

[asplundii]

First, is the Spotnose part of the spider complex?

There is no data that I have seen to show one way or another. I have not seen a BH Spotnose made let alone bred out so... That would be all that is needed to answer the question

Second do they have a head wobble normally or only in the super form?

Wobble has only been reported in the superform to my knowledge.

[PaysonHobbyist]

Thank you for answering my questions.

I am a little confused, though. Why would a BH Spotnose being made answer whether or not a Spotnose is part of the Spider complex?

Thank you for your help and explanations.

[asplundii]

Thank you for answering my questions.

Happy to help where I can

I am a little confused, though. Why would a BH Spotnose being made answer whether or not a Spotnose is part of the Spider complex?

Since the Spider/Spot is terminal, you are not going to get one to grow up and breed out to determine if Spotnose is in the same complex. However, Blackhead and Spider are alleles. So you accomplish the same thing, first by make a BH/Spot and then, by breeding it out. If the clutch produced only Spotnose and BH with no normals and no BH/Spot, then you can conclude it is part of the Spider complex

Make sense?

[rufretic]

Happy to help where I can




Since the Spider/Spot is terminal, you are not going to get one to grow up and breed out to determine if Spotnose is in the same complex. However, Blackhead and Spider are alleles. So you accomplish the same thing, first by make a BH/Spot and then, by breeding it out. If the clutch produced only Spotnose and BH with no normals and no BH/Spot, then you can conclude it is part of the Spider complex

Make sense?

Interesting. I have spotnose and black head in my DG project, maybe something to think about for the future.