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    Overly large feeders

    Alrighty. So, a couple months ago I picked up 3 ďmediumĒ rats from a reptile store nearby. The smalls I had gotten from them the time before were very small, so I thought Iíd try their mediums. And HOLY crap, these things are like the size of cats!!

    Yes, I realize I should have exchanged them. But I didnít. Yes, I know itís best to buy in bulk anyway for regulated sizing. But I am living in Texas right now from California, where I am recovering from surgery for an unknown period of time. And I have no intentions of trying to drive cross country while worrying about thawing rodents in the car.

    Anyway, they are obviously much larger than a meal Iíd ever normally feed either of my animals. Iíve cut heads and limbs of chicks in the past, but thereís no way I could do that with one of these without a ghastly mess. I know I just worry way too much about prey size...because I see these photos/videos of snakes in the wild having swallowed MASSIVE prey.

    I still just get nervous about it. Of course I know I can just toss them out. Itís not about that. I would feel guilty about wasting a life.
    About 6 weeks ago, I fed the smallest looking one to my Dumerilís. She did it, but looked fat and miserable for a few weeks. Although, it was nothing compared to photos you often see of large constrictors eating antelope and stuff.

    Now that I say that out loud I realize how ridiculous I sound worrying. They just look so big! Even though others have assured me my scrub could probably handle one, I just canít do it. Heís 6 feet long, but so thin-bodied. Every time he eats, I swear I think his neck will burst! But 3 days later, no matter how big the meal, itís like it never happened.

    Anyway, forum team. What would you do? Leave them in the freezer for now? Go for it?


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    I accidentally bought some large rats, instead of medium, and right now they're just sitting in my freezer, but I have heard of feeding periodically overly large meals, particularly for a scrub.

    Here's a video of a scrub eating a whole chicken. I am not saying this is the right thing to do, but I figured I'd add it here to hear opinions too:

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    Re: Overly large feeders

    Do you have a picture of the feeders? I think your scrub may be a tad larger than my 5.5 ft male. I feed him mostly mediums but he's eaten a couple of large rats as well. He looks a little plump for a few days but other than that there's no issues. Your boa is a pretty good size critter too. I would think a medium rat wouldn't be an issue but I prefer to feed my boas smaller meals than I usually feed my similarly sized pythons.

    @ wnateg- That's a gorgeous scrub and that video shows how easily they can take down larger prey. I would never feed my snakes processed food though.
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    Rodentpro.com. Donít have to worry about driving anywhere. Largest Iíll go is slightly larger than the girth of the snake.

    and I wouldnít never feed processed meat to a snake. Reminds me of the moron who posted to a Facebook group a couple weeks ago feeding her burm cooked chicken breasts. Supposedly at least.

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    If you have a few bucks for shipping, I like Perfect Prey. Immaculate feeders. You can even get single rats of some sizes. I've ordered to NC for years, and they arrive rock solid even when we're at 100 degrees. Got any reptile friends in the area? I often split an order with a friend to save on shipping.

    https://perfectprey.com/frozen-rats/

    Do you know the weight of the rats compared to the snakes?

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    Re: Overly large feeders

    Quote Originally Posted by Meghenebk View Post
    If you have a few bucks for shipping, I like Perfect Prey. Immaculate feeders. You can even get single rats of some sizes. I've ordered to NC for years, and they arrive rock solid even when we're at 100 degrees. Got any reptile friends in the area? I often split an order with a friend to save on shipping.

    https://perfectprey.com/frozen-rats/

    Do you know the weight of the rats compared to the snakes?
    Right. I normally use Layne Labs, but as mentioned, am out of state and donít have a set return date yet. Hopefully, less than 6 weeks. But who knows. I havenít made a bulk order because I do not intend to drive 1300 miles with frozen rats in the car😉

    I donít have a scale here, but Iíll post a pic when I get home. Iím sure I need to stop being a baby and just do it.

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    I'd probably save the over-sized prey for a later date...if my "gut feeling" was that it looked too big, I wouldn't do it. "Usually no problem" but no guarantee either.
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    Re: Overly large feeders

    Quote Originally Posted by EL-Ziggy View Post
    Do you have a picture of the feeders? I think your scrub may be a tad larger than my 5.5 ft male. I feed him mostly mediums but he's eaten a couple of large rats as well. He looks a little plump for a few days but other than that there's no issues. Your boa is a pretty good size critter too. I would think a medium rat wouldn't be an issue but I prefer to feed my boas smaller meals than I usually feed my similarly sized pythons.

    @ wnateg- That's a gorgeous scrub and that video shows how easily they can take down larger prey. I would never feed my snakes processed food though.
    You know what, Zig? Youíre right. Iím being lame. Just pulled them out and theyíre big, but itíll be fine. They can rally!

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    Re: Overly large feeders

    Quote Originally Posted by wnateg View Post
    I accidentally bought some large rats, instead of medium, and right now they're just sitting in my freezer, but I have heard of feeding periodically overly large meals, particularly for a scrub.

    Here's a video of a scrub eating a whole chicken. I am not saying this is the right thing to do, but I figured I'd add it here to hear opinions too:

    Youíre right. Iím being a wuss😂 Heíll be thrilled.

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    Re: Overly large feeders

    Thanks for your help, guys! The scrub took it like a champ. Heís got a larger belly than usual, but with a metabolism like that, itíll be gone in 3 days

    The Dum refused, which is never a shock (I early always thaw out enough food for only one of them so he can chomp her leftovers. But I thought, she last ate 7 weeks ago and has been much better about taking food lately...so, fail on my part).

    Here is the kraken, after taking his monster rat...always assuming there is another waiting for him


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