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    First year breeding - do you see something?

    Hi there,

    This is my first year breeding, in December my female started eating like she was mad and began to bulk a bunch. But since the beginning of January she started refusing food and have since lost all that bulk. She is currently at 2,2 kg. I canít tell if there is a thicker than usual area in her body, but my guess is she didnít ovulate or anything, what do you guys (with more trained eye) think?
    She has been always on the cold side since she started fasting and she keeps locking with my male.




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    It's pretty impossible to tell unless you catch ovulation as it is happening or have an ultrasound machine to check on follicle development. We've absolutely missed it a few times. In cases where we've missed it, an indicator is shed timing. If a female who typically sheds every 2-3 months is looking large and has two sheds with only a month in between, that is a good indication of imminent eggs. Pre-ovulation shed and prelay shed occur approximately a month apart, although we have had females skip pre-ovulation sheds.

    Behaviour is an important clue as well. I would assume she has not ovulated because she is still cooling. Females who have ovulated will favour the warmer side of their enclosure and tend not to stretch out.

    Some snakes also glow before ovulating. Which is to say their colours brighten up, especially around the head. We have one female who looks like an entirely different snake when in this phase (we assume because she is het for Hypo).

    Honestly though, it is really something you will learn with time and experience. Is your incubator ready? If it isn't, I would recommend getting it set up and tested asap!

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    Re: First year breeding - do you see something?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gemini Pythons View Post
    It's pretty impossible to tell unless you catch ovulation as it is happening or have an ultrasound machine to check on follicle development. We've absolutely missed it a few times. In cases where we've missed it, an indicator is shed timing. If a female who typically sheds every 2-3 months is looking large and has two sheds with only a month in between, that is a good indication of imminent eggs. Pre-ovulation shed and prelay shed occur approximately a month apart, although we have had females skip pre-ovulation sheds.

    Behaviour is an important clue as well. I would assume she has not ovulated because she is still cooling. Females who have ovulated will favour the warmer side of their enclosure and tend not to stretch out.

    Some snakes also glow before ovulating. Which is to say their colours brighten up, especially around the head. We have one female who looks like an entirely different snake when in this phase (we assume because she is het for Hypo).

    Honestly though, it is really something you will learn with time and experience. Is your incubator ready? If it isn't, I would recommend getting it set up and tested asap!
    Yeah, Experience needed I think you may be right, I think no ovulation has happened yet. And yes, incubator is fully assembled and tested, still not on, waiting for that pre-lay shed to turn it on!


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    Re: First year breeding - do you see something?

    Quote Originally Posted by ERA View Post
    Yeah, Experience needed I think you may be right, I think no ovulation has happened yet. And yes, incubator is fully assembled and tested, still not on, waiting for that pre-lay shed to turn it on!


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    Awesome! :-) If we have ANY question about if something is a prelay shed, we turn the incubator on about 2 weeks after the shed just to be safe (2 weeks is early, but we're definitely on the cautious side, haha). Be sure to keep good written records of her behaviour and keep track of her sheds. We have cards on the fronts of all our enclosures with notes, and they help us immeasurably.

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    No one can tell you from a picture what is going on unless it was a picture of a female ovulating which it is not.

    If she is on the cool end than she is more than likely building up, as for food intake it varies from one animal to another, some will stop eating soon as they are being paired, some will up to ovulation and some will even eat a meal or two after ovulation (rare but it happens)
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