Poss RI help needed

[miller17015]

My one male is having a slight wheeze when he moves and his one nostril looks blocked but i have no other signs of a serious RI yet i have a fogger and F10 coming friday for the fogging treatment but incase it gets worse i want to have somethin on hand i saw alot about Tylan 200 or 50 but i couldnt find it anywhere and i have no idea about a reptile vet the only vets we have near me are livestock. like with my livestock i want to have this stuff on hand incase it is needed but the only thing my local supply store has is just penicillin for antibiotics. Where can i get something to treat this or just to keep on hand what else works? there is next to nothing online for info.

[Lord Sorril]

Are you sure its not stuck shed in the nostril?--It happens.

[miller17015]

I mean it just started to really blue up in the eyes so he hasnt started to shed yet but also the light wheeze its more like a wheeze you get when your nose is clogged like it said i opened his mouth and couldnt see any bubbles so if it is a RI is new and im hoping to treat him before it gets any worse but if it was to progess i would like to have antibiotics on hand like i do for my livestock id rather spend 50$ on them and not need them every year then loss thousands on my animals. I just cant find anywhere to get the stuff i need or info.

[Bogertophis]

I would wait until he sheds, as it's likely shed-related. Without more symptoms (bubbles, mouth-breathing) you can do more harm than good by fogging chemicals
OR by giving antibiotics...they are NOT harmless. (Not positive but I think Tylan is sold in feed stores for livestock too?) First, don't panic...then, don't over-treat. And make sure the humidity is adequate.

[miller17015]

So after some fogger treatments she had a good shed nothing stuck and he was actually moving around more an looking better almost looked like it may of been some fine substrate in his nostril that may of been causing the breathing issue resulting in the wheeze i was hearing but after skipping the day of fogging i noticed it again very very light almost like a clogged nostril an i notice a little of what looks like snot in the one nostril but he air is flowing just seems clogged for lack of better word the other is fine and since his shed he is tongue flicking more and much more active, so im not sure if it is possible for it to still be a very slight RI i think i may continue to fog treat him with F10 mixture as for his enclosure i switched to paper towels for the time until i get some better bedding, also i have a few times in checking on him found him just hanging out away from the belly heat section I feel if he was sick and trying to heat up to burn it out of his system like most animals bodies do he would be on the hot spot more so now im just wondering if there is something up with his one nostril. I didnt hear it for a few days after his shed and i was intently listening while inspecting him close.

[O'Mathghamhna]

The most important thing with giving antibiotics without a vet visit is not just the meds being strong and possibly harmful/unnecessary for your snake, but the dosage would be WAY off since you would be buying it for livestock. I know it's tough, but skirting a vet visit and proper diagnosis could be deadly to your baby. Just food for thought. Is he yawning a lot?

[miller17015]

I researched the dosage and found others that also use it not my first time having to treat my own animals being at any given time we have over 200 head of cattle and i have a small farm myself but that is the problem to find a vet that would be able to check or treat reptiles is gonna be a hellish thing. now i did the fogger treatment for the week and im still hearing a slight wheeze every once and awhile i also notice it in the female that i was breeding him with but they had not been paired for close to a month before i noticed it with him. i cant stress how little the wheeze is it almost sounds like one nostril is just clogged a little but they both are very active and moving around no signs of bubbling in the mouth no yawning for air nothing. now the male is on paper for the time but im wondering if the coco substrate i was using could of had fine fibers that may of gotten in their nostrils causing some blockage? im at a loss here they both seem healthy minus the male needing a meal they both went off food not long after starting to breed the female ate for a bit after starting but now she looks like shes building.

[Stewart_Reptiles]

You can't just have an antibiotic on end for RI not all RI are the same and based on a culture the appropriate antibiotic needs to be prescribes. And you obviously want to treat an animal unless you have a diagnosis either.

Find and go to a vet.

[Bogertophis]

Antibiotics can harm or help a snake, it's important that the correct one is used, AND used for the right length of time so that resistant pathogens (that don't respond
to treatment) are not produced that make him sicker & harder to treat. I'm with Deborah (above post ^), I'd get him checked by a qualified vet & stop guessing.

[Caitlin]

Coco fiber is not a likely culprit, but regardless of that, when it comes to treating for something like an RI, you can't handle a reptile the way many of us have worked with farm animals. The pathophysiology of RI in reptiles differs significantly from respiratory diseases in mammals, and failing to properly identify (via culture) the cause of the infection and provide targeted treatment can have terrible, even fatal, results. If the RI is fungal or viral, then the antibiotics will do nothing but subject the snake to unnecessary stress.

You can use this tool from the Association of Reptilian and Amphibian Veterinarians to see if there is a reptile vet in your area. https://arav.site-ym.com/search/custom.asp?id=3661

If there is not a specialist veterinarian near you, please consider at least setting up a phone consult with a veterinary school in your state - depending on the situation, sometimes arrangements can be made to send the culture media to you and then ship it to the vet school or their lab for analysis.