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    Re: I want to start making and selling HDPE cages

    Quote Originally Posted by Angel619392 View Post
    To me what worried me is
    XPVC can and will off gas at 140 degress so the Chloride (Poly vinyl Chloride) can be toxic not only for the animals but you if you do reach those temperatures... Or if you want Ackies that need 150 degree basking you cannot do it with these cages.
    HDPE tolerates 248 before the off gassing happens

    Also I plan to offer an HDPE enclosure that is same price or within $50 dollars of AP plastic cages... The only thing stopping somebody from buying a cage made from superior material would be the company... Or in other words reputation, which I want to build by first selling locally and having people come on forums and give their opinions and also making youtube videos of me building/setting them up.... Keeping people updated with how my cages are doing for my animals because its better all around for me to be honest and let you guys know about problems my cages are having through youtube for 2 reasons.
    1) You guys know im being honest
    2) I do not have to stress or pay extra shipping to get it back and potentially lose business from people

    So it really comes down to quality and reputation... If that is equal then it comes down to the superior product... Im basically saying I aim to match the quality of animal plastics and reputation will come through that... But yes I plan to deal locally first... Im ambitious (:
    Well, for most reptiles minus monitors, 140F would either kill them or do some severe neurological damage that the off gassing would be a moot point. I’ve had a Nile monitor and a couple Savannahs and honestly for a monitor, I would just use 1/2 Inch plywood. You need something like an 8x4 cage and around 2 feet of soil for them to dig in. There is a local guy here who builds cages from pvc and breeds water monitors and he uses plywood as well. Then just stack a bunch of bluestone or slate to create the 150F hot spot with hanging lights. Not sure I would trust pvc to hold the weight of an 8x4x2 flat of dirt. Arboreal monitors would be different but I would think you would be wanting to heat a branch or log and not the floor of the cage. Not exactly sure as I’ve never kept anything like Ackies. But a plywood cage would be easy to make. Just use 1x1 for a frame and nail plywood sheets to it. Then frame in a tempered glass window.

    Not trying to discourage you like I said in PMs. Just be ready to answer questions from guys like me who are skeptical to reinvent the wheel lol. Like I said, I run a automotive shop and I always get vendors wanting me to switch to them and how their products are “better”. Yet when I press them to explain what exactly makes their products so much better that I would want to switch my stock etc, they can’t give me a good enough reason.

    If you do the same quality as AP in a faster time, I would think you would do fairly well locally. You can also talk to your local reptile shops and see if they would be interested in maybe doing a consignment. That would get you decent advertising and then the local customers could either contact you through business cards left with the reptile store or the reptile store buys them from you and then resells them. Either way it would be a win/win for you.
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    Re: I want to start making and selling HDPE cages

    Quote Originally Posted by Sauzo View Post
    Well, for most reptiles minus monitors, 140F would either kill them or do some severe neurological damage that the off gassing would be a moot point. Iíve had a Nile monitor and a couple Savannahs and honestly for a monitor, I would just use 1/2 Inch plywood. You need something like an 8x4 cage and around 2 feet of soil for them to dig in. There is a local guy here who builds cages from pvc and breeds water monitors and he uses plywood as well. Then just stack a bunch of bluestone or slate to create the 150F hot spot with hanging lights. Not sure I would trust pvc to hold the weight of an 8x4x2 flat of dirt. Arboreal monitors would be different but I would think you would be wanting to heat a branch or log and not the floor of the cage. Not exactly sure as Iíve never kept anything like Ackies. But a plywood cage would be easy to make. Just use 1x1 for a frame and nail plywood sheets to it. Then frame in a tempered glass window.

    Not trying to discourage you like I said in PMs. Just be ready to answer questions from guys like me who are skeptical to reinvent the wheel lol. Like I said, I run a automotive shop and I always get vendors wanting me to switch to them and how their products are ďbetterĒ. Yet when I press them to explain what exactly makes their products so much better that I would want to switch my stock etc, they canít give me a good enough reason.

    If you do the same quality as AP in a faster time, I would think you would do fairly well locally. You can also talk to your local reptile shops and see if they would be interested in maybe doing a consignment. That would get you decent advertising and then the local customers could either contact you through business cards left with the reptile store or the reptile store buys them from you and then resells them. Either way it would be a win/win for you.
    Damn bro thats a great idea tbh the local reptile shops are a cool way to get my feet wet too because odds are a person walking into local reptile shop would know whats up with the plastic cages. But hey thanks a lot for that idea..

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