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    Any way to tell if all white snake is pied?

    Just bought a super fire that is all very clean white except for one scale at the tip of her tail is light yellow.

    her parents were (firefly highway het pied) x (firefly yellow belly pied)

    is there any way to tell if she is a “visual” pied other than by proving her out?

    sorry for the newbie question. Still learning! Thanks!

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    Any way to tell if all white snake is pied?

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    Re: Any way to tell if all white snake is pied?

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    Sorry. What does that mean? Error in my post?

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    Re: Any way to tell if all white snake is pied?

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    Sorry. What does that mean? Error in my post?
    Sorry ... it was my error..

    I misread your thread title as white snakes in SHED ... and answered your thread accordingly


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    Get a blacklight. A Pied SuperFire should have areas that are totally patternless and areas that have very very faint pattern to them. It is also possible your animal is a SuperFire Ivory or Highway, in which case you will likely see a dorsal stripe under the blacklight. With both of these I will caution that if you do not know exactly what you are looking for you might miss it so it might help to get someone a bit more familiar with the combos to help you
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    Re: Any way to tell if all white snake is pied?

    Quote Originally Posted by asplundii View Post
    Get a blacklight. A Pied SuperFire should have areas that are totally patternless and areas that have very very faint pattern to them. It is also possible your animal is a SuperFire Ivory or Highway, in which case you will likely see a dorsal stripe under the blacklight. With both of these I will caution that if you do not know exactly what you are looking for you might miss it so it might help to get someone a bit more familiar with the combos to help you
    Thanks! Will try tonight

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    Re: Any way to tell if all white snake is pied?

    Make sure the blacklight is a 365nm wavelength, normal Blacklight's aren't accurate.
    Check this video out that shows the difference in the w lights, its a pretty big difference.
    https://youtu.be/b2U036eMjw0

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    Re: Any way to tell if all white snake is pied?

    Quote Originally Posted by Larz979 View Post
    Just bought a super fire that is all very clean white except for one scale at the tip of her tail is light yellow.

    her parents were (firefly highway het pied) x (firefly yellow belly pied)

    is there any way to tell if she is a “visual” pied other than by proving her out?

    sorry for the newbie question. Still learning! Thanks!
    Why would anyone make a all white pied snake in the first place?

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    Re: Any way to tell if all white snake is pied?

    Nobody was trying to make an all white pied. I am just curious what genes a female has that I bought. She is a super fire and maybe super pastel and at very least het Pied (visual x het parents). May be a "visual" but since she is all white there is no way to tell.

    On the black light test.... With the black light I was able to see a couple very faint yellow patches along her spine up near the head. Not visible at all in white light.


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