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Do all BPs fast?
This may just be wishful thinking on my part, but I was wondering if anyone has ever had an adult BP (800g+) that doesn't fast? If so, how did you feed and house the snake to achieve this?
My boy is still growing and a voracious eater but I know he'll eventually slow down and possibly fast for months. I was wondering if there are any hacks or a more optimal way to raise BPs to avoid fasts? Not sure if such a thing is possible but I thought I'd ask anyway.
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Depends on the animal and what you consider a fast, but generally yes they will at some point or another, it can be something short 1 month or so or something much longer 6+ months.
Ways to avoid fast is proper husbandry, limited stress and smaller preys.
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Re: Do all BPs fast?
Also its important to remember that fasting is not necessarily bad. Sure if it goes on for longer than a few weeks it might be your environment or stress, but if it is just a few weeks (personally the longest one of mine has gone is 4 weeks), and they are not losing a considerable amount of weight then it may just be them regulating their own diet.
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Re: Do all BPs fast?
I’ve had one that fasted 15 months and another that went 9 months !!
That said I had a Pastel a few years ago that NEVER , EVER refused a feed !!!
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I feed on the conservative side and very rarely do my BPs refuse a meal. Since mine are both adults I let them dictate how often I feed. I observe their behavior and if I see "hunting behavior" on consecutive nights I offer on night three. So far, zero refusals using this technique.
Of my two BPs, one came to me as an adult less than a year ago, but no strikes from him so far.
My other I got as a juvenile and he took about 3 months off his first winter with me. Since then he eats like a champ.
I'm a firm believer that many BPs, and snakes in general, are over fed in captivity. Hence calling my feeding style "conservative". But my animals are all healthy and maintain great weights and body structures. They're solid muscle with no fat, feeding "conservatively".
In my experience, smaller meals lead to less food strikes.
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Re: Do all BPs fast?
Originally Posted by Craiga 01453
I feed on the conservative side and very rarely do my BPs refuse a meal. Since mine are both adults I let them dictate how often I feed. I observe their behavior and if I see "hunting behavior" on consecutive nights I offer on night three. So far, zero refusals using this technique.
Of my two BPs, one came to me as an adult less than a year ago, but no strikes from him so far.
My other I got as a juvenile and he took about 3 months off his first winter with me. Since then he eats like a champ.
I'm a firm believer that many BPs, and snakes in general, are over fed in captivity. Hence calling my feeding style "conservative". But my animals are all healthy and maintain great weights and body structures. They're solid muscle with no fat, feeding "conservatively".
In my experience, smaller meals lead to less food strikes.
Yes .. some of my Royals will eat every time but in 10 to 14 day intervals
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Re: Do all BPs fast?
Thanks for the responses! Sounds like the key is proper husbandry and not overfeeding. It's also heartening to hear that amazingly there do seem to be some BPs out there that don't really fast.
Originally Posted by Kira8p
Also its important to remember that fasting is not necessarily bad. Sure if it goes on for longer than a few weeks it might be your environment or stress, but if it is just a few weeks (personally the longest one of mine has gone is 4 weeks), and they are not losing a considerable amount of weight then it may just be them regulating their own diet.
4 weeks actually isn't bad and sounds like a regular interval to go without food for a snake, it's the strikes that last months that I dread. Good to hear that your BPs are good eaters
Originally Posted by Craiga 01453
I feed on the conservative side and very rarely do my BPs refuse a meal. Since mine are both adults I let them dictate how often I feed. I observe their behavior and if I see "hunting behavior" on consecutive nights I offer on night three. So far, zero refusals using this technique.
Of my two BPs, one came to me as an adult less than a year ago, but no strikes from him so far.
My other I got as a juvenile and he took about 3 months off his first winter with me. Since then he eats like a champ.
I'm a firm believer that many BPs, and snakes in general, are over fed in captivity. Hence calling my feeding style "conservative". But my animals are all healthy and maintain great weights and body structures. They're solid muscle with no fat, feeding "conservatively".
In my experience, smaller meals lead to less food strikes.
I share the belief that many captive snakes are overfed, especially since they also probably don't get as much exercise as wild snakes. Your method of feeding sounds pretty good, I will likely adopt something similar when my BP is fully grown.
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Do all BPs fast?
Originally Posted by Luvyna
Thanks for the responses! Sounds like the key is proper husbandry and not overfeeding. It's also heartening to hear that amazingly there do seem to be some BPs out there that don't really fast.
4 weeks actually isn't bad and sounds like a regular interval to go without food for a snake, it's the strikes that last months that I dread. Good to hear that your BPs are good eaters
I share the belief that many captive snakes are overfed, especially since they also probably don't get as much exercise as wild snakes. Your method of feeding sounds pretty good, I will likely adopt something similar when my BP is fully grown.
I’m not sure it is husbandry as I had a pair of identical Albino Royals in identical adjacent viv setups ..
One ate every 10 days without fail the other went 9 months without eating a thing ?!!
Both eat everytime these days ..
The one that fasted 9 months recently produced five stunning babies !!
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Re: Do all BPs fast?
Originally Posted by Zincubus
I’m not sure it is husbandry as I had a pair of identical Albino Royals in identical adjacent viv setups ..
One ate every 10 days without fail the other went 9 months without eating a thing ?!!
Both eat everytime these days ..
The one that fasted 9 months recently produced five stunning babies !!
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I don't disagree. However I believe the point being made regarding husbandry is that if an animal isn't eating checking and double checking husbandry is a good idea for a first step with troubleshooting.
In other words, improper husbandry may be the cause. If husbandry is on point then on to troubleshooting step 2.
Your case proves that even WITH proper husbandry, they can still go on extended strikes.
Congrats on the babies!!!! What was the pairing?
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Re: Do all BPs fast?
Originally Posted by Craiga 01453
I don't disagree. However I believe the point being made regarding husbandry is that if an animal isn't eating checking and double checking husbandry is a good idea for a first step with troubleshooting.
In other words, improper husbandry may be the cause. If husbandry is on point then on to troubleshooting step 2.
Your case proves that even WITH proper husbandry, they can still go on extended strikes.
Congrats on the babies!!!! What was the pairing?
Two high contrast Albinos
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