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    scheming PVC mods at Casa de Crook

    Still no response from either of my cage manufacturers regarding parts/panels for my existing cages. May just get a 4x8 sheet of 3/8 pvc from Lowes and cut pieces to divide and reshelve my T25 and divide my 8x32x24. Would also leave enough extra material to make a two level level rack that could hold combos of 12/28qt sterilite tubs for hatchling/yearling grow out space.

    If those tubs are indeed the same heights as they are listed online (will measure at
    Wal-Mart before committing to cutting and building) I might just do this. Could make all necessary cage amendments AND add a tiny rack all said and done for like $150-160? And that would include tubs, heat for the rack, as well as two 3D printed perches for the smaller tubs.

    Would be white pvc but at this point Im not sure I care? Pretty sure this would save enough $ to fund the cost of two 100watt pro-heat RHPs for the divided 8 cage when they become needed and fully complete all changes needed with caging for every current critter in my care for the next several years.

    Or I could use those savings to buy more snakes...


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    Don't know how long you've been waiting for responses, but at this time of year, I'm betting they're buried with the crush of holiday orders to fill. Better customer
    service would be nice but for small operations, I'd bet they gravitate to the orders that provide them with maximum remuneration? And you sound pretty handy.
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    scheming PVC mods at Casa de Crook

    Quote Originally Posted by Bogertophis View Post
    Don't know how long you've been waiting for responses, but at this time of year, I'm betting they're buried with the crush of holiday orders to fill. Better customer
    service would be nice but for small operations, I'd bet they gravitate to the orders that provide them with maximum remuneration? And you sound pretty handy.
    AP hasnt responded to my emails in a year and a half lol. Facebook messaged my other cage guy and I can see that he read the message but no reply. I cant say I blame them for wanting to fill more expensive/profitable requests though.

    And yeah, Im pretty handy. Also have access to a full woodshop in my department at the campus where I teach. Once materials are in hand I could have all of this done and built in an afternoon at most probably? Already made a cuts list online and can do it all in a single 4x8 sheet of material.

    Only hang up is that the parts/panels would be white and all of my cages are black. Could paint them I guess... I just like the idea of using unfinished straight up pvc for everything for cleaning and surface durability


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    That's terrible about AP not responding.

    I see what you mean about black vs. white, & I personally I wouldn't want to paint them...I'm picturing the inevitable paint chipping off & showing white spots?

    I think black cages look very cool, but I'd personally opt for white -to reflect more natural light in the cages for the snakes & also better for me to see what's going on.
    And the savings is nice too, but totally your call.
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    Re: scheming PVC mods at Casa de Crook

    Also worth noting is that once the boas grow up enough in a few years or so, the divider and split shelves will come out of the T25, leaving only one white pvc panel divider in my 8 cage. Im gonna stick some white foam between cages just to get a visualization of how things might look. For the savings I could have I think I might be able to tolerate some white in my sea of black enclosures lol


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    Best of luck with your new challenge.
    The one thing I found that you can count on about Balls is that they are consistent about their inconsistentcy.

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    Measured 12 & 28 qt tubs at walmart... different heights. No dice on the 12/28qt combo rack plan

    However there are 12.7qt and 25qt tubs that are within 1/8" of being the same height. 12.7 is just about 1/8" shorter. Possibly a hair less.

    My concerns here: If shelves/levels are built at the same heights so as to be interchangeable, then with heat tape installed the 12.7qt tub would fit great. The 25qt would be a bit snug and wear on the heat tape over time. Could build with the 25qt height in mind and make a plexiglass or other thin material "shim" of sorts to minimize the gap at the top of the 12.7qt? If that makes sense...

    Those that are rack users, am I over thinking the issue with the gap between rim of tub and top of shelf? 1/16 would be ideal in my mind as I would worry about tiny hatchlings squeezing their way out. Would be used as a grow out rack for my rockhampton coastal carpet 30grams and other later additions to the collection here over time. Maybe more carpets, maybe neonate boas.

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    Re: scheming PVC mods at Casa de Crook

    Discovered an option online to have this all done in full 1/2 black expanded pvc and cut exactly to size and shipped... for about 4x the cost of doing it myself hah!
    May actually consider it though. My ocd and valuation of my free time would be greatly relieved to make all necessary cage mods and builds executed in perfectly matching materials and all Id need to do is some drilling/assembly and maybe have fun with a router to do recessed heat tape on the potential rack build.


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    Re: scheming PVC mods at Casa de Crook

    Ordered a bunch of cut to size black pvc panels to divide and shelve the bigger cages. With my current teaching/work load I decided Id pay a premium to have everything pretty much pre fab and save some headache. Will hold off on rack purchase or construction for a bit too. Just need to scratch part of the itch for new snake room gear


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