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    Dad is not normal and mom and dad are both het hypo also. Dad is in the BEL complex
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    She has a very faint pattern and a grayish head. I thought BEL too. Could she be a super mohave?

    mom (coco) is Mohave pastel.
    dad? (Dora) who was kept together with coco because previous owner thought was female (lol) looks like a normal. Which we just found all this out.

    So so what are all the other babies?
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    Post a picture of the sire, no way he's a normal.

    I agree with Deb that both parents are het hypo.

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    I don't have a pic of Dora.

    What at does het hypo mean?
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    Re: Unexpected babies...couple of questions

    Here is mom and while they are pipping with lucy out of her egg.

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    Re: Unexpected babies...couple of questions

    Quote Originally Posted by Sunnieskys View Post
    What at does het hypo mean?
    Both parents are carriers of the recessive Hypomelanistic (aka Ghost) gene. One normal copy of the gene, one mutant copy. So, just like Het Pied, Het Albino, any other recessive. The two faded babies are Hypos - they got the recessive version of the gene from both parents. The wild type baby is a Possible Het Hypo. The BEL is either also Hypo, or another Poss Het Hypo. Kinda hard to tell.
    Last edited by Alicia; 11-23-2019 at 03:40 PM. Reason: typos

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    Re: Unexpected babies...couple of questions

    Only pic of dora aka possible dad

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    Re: Unexpected babies...couple of questions

    Sorry better pic.


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    Re: Unexpected babies...couple of questions

    Quote Originally Posted by bcr229 View Post
    Post a picture of the sire, no way he's a normal.

    I agree with Deb that both parents are het hypo.
    Quote Originally Posted by Stewart_Reptiles View Post
    Dad is not normal and mom and dad are both het hypo also. Dad is in the BEL complex
    I agree, first thing I thought when I saw the first pic, hypo! Congrats on a surprise clutch and a good one at that! Two unknown hets for the same recessive gene on an accidental pairing, can't say I've heard of that happening before lol. And bels too from a dad you thought was normal lol, I have to say, you're pretty lucky haha.

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    Ok so here is an update. We got live hoppers for them. 2 have eaten, 2 have not. Infact one mouse is sleeping with the snake in the hide. How long can we keep the live hopper in with the snakes? She put them in yesterday. Houdini ate almost immediately, and squiggs ate this morning. How long before we worry for the other two or move the mouse to the other two so the mice don't die? This baby thing is all so new. Thanks everyone.
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