Thanks, this is some good to know info and tips. I especially like the rubbing the frozen rat idea. I guess if he shows interest you then thaw it out and
offer that same night/day. And I agree I'm sure they can fool us on occasion but these tips I'm getting from you others is good to know for helping to save rats and wasted time and money. Thanks a bunch Crowfingers, Craiga01453, MuicyJelon, and anyone sharing ideas.