Zen Habitats....

[Gocntry]

In another thread Cheesenugget mentioned Zen Caging.... So I google searched, being I haven't heard of them... (Thanks Cheesenugget )

https://www.zenhabitats.com/collecti...umidity-panels

What are the thoughts on these?? $389.00 for a 4x2x2 with free shipping... Looks like they do everything the others do, just use an aluminum frame

with pvc panels. UTH and Radiant heat compatible, high humidity compatible. I think it should have a center cross bar on the bottom frame to help distribute

the weight, especially with larger snakes, but they look decent. Am I missing anything I should be looking for??

they also sell bases, and spacers for stacking their cages too.

I'll be looking to purchase a few pvc style cages the beginning of the year and was just exploring all options.

[Bogertophis]

If you're happy with PVC enclosures* these look like a great choice to me, with the improved support of a metal frame. Don't know anyone who's tried them though?
(*Full disclosure, I'm a glass fan, tried a pair of Proline HDPE plastic enclosures a while back, still prefer glass & my Prolines were "rehomed".)

On these, you could probably add a center cross-bar for added support pretty easily...just go to Home Depot/Lowe's (etc), make sure to measure accurately, & glue
it underneath.

[Waterman]

I’d avoid purely because of the screen top. Goodbye humidity and heat.

For $10 more you could get an ap cage the same size

[Gocntry]

If you're happy with PVC enclosures* these look like a great choice to me, with the improved support of a metal frame. Don't know anyone who's tried them though?
(*Full disclosure, I'm a glass fan, tried a pair of Proline HDPE plastic enclosures a while back, still prefer glass & my Prolines were "rehomed".)

On these, you could probably add a center cross-bar for added support pretty easily...just go to Home Depot/Lowe's (etc), make sure to measure accurately, & glue
it underneath.

Unknown about the pvc enclosure.... Right now all I have is front access glass terrariums and top access tanks, This looked like a compromise of the 2 styles

unlike a 1 piece pvc tank, with these it seems I could replace any of the panels in the setup if it gets damaged without a loss of the enclosure.

I like the size of 4x2x2 and they also do a 4x2x18" if the height is not needed. I also like the storage bottom, and the spacer that allows top mounted light / CHE's also would seem to help contain heat and humidity if needed

I have Zero experience with this type of enclosure.

[Gocntry]

I’d avoid purely because of the screen top. Goodbye humidity and heat.

For $10 more you could get an ap cage the same size

Looks like that can be handled according to their website

• Humidity levels up to 100% for tropical setups
• Humidity Shield for top screen keeps humidity high while allowing for ventilation

and dealing with glass tanks right now, it's hard but no impossible to keep humidity up

I have been looking at AP Cages and Boaphile Plastics too.

[Bogertophis]

I do like how they look, but I'm just not a fan of plastic.

[wnateg]

Looks good in this picture.

[wnateg]

But AP Cages are so cheap. Seems hard to beat when price is a factor. I mean they have a 48x24x25 on sale for $195, like that's pretty much unbeatable. And the only complaints from people are the lead times, not the quality.

[Gocntry]

But AP Cages are so cheap. Seems hard to beat when price is a factor. I mean they have a 48x24x25 on sale for $195, like that's pretty much unbeatable. And the only complaints from people are the lead times, not the quality.

Lead times wouldn't be an issue, I can be patient when required.

Don't forget to add $50 to $60 for shipping on AP Cages though, and they do have the options like a RHP, Led lights and a basking shelf done at the factory

which is cool too, though it does up the price a little.

[wnateg]

Lead times wouldn't be an issue, I can be patient when required.

Don't forget to add $50 to $60 for shipping on AP Cages though, and they do have the options like a RHP, Led lights and a basking shelf done at the factory

which is cool too, though it does up the price a little.

True, but with that lead time, I would probably buy multiple at a time, so the shipping kind of balances out. The only accessory I would probably buy would be the cage locks; the rest can be found cheaper or better, I think.