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    Looks like a low quality purple passion and the second snake is not what u were told, I’m not sure what it is but looks to definitely have spider in it.

    i hope these are not snakes u plan on breeding and are just some pretty pets for u
    I’m just a bill sitting on top of capital hill.

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    Re: thoughts on genes?

    Quote Originally Posted by Stewart_Reptiles View Post
    Nowadays considering how many combos there are and how many looks alike or are subtle unless you know the pairing it's just gonna be a guessing game, there is Spider in it and some other genes.

    maybe i will email the breeder and see what kind of records were kept and maybe something got misidentified on the way to the show...i can only hope.

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    Re: thoughts on genes?

    Quote Originally Posted by Pleco View Post
    the guy has bred balls for 30 years and puts on the shows of our states herp society...thats why i posted here also
    Pastel Enchi Calico and Super Pastel Enchi Calico have been around for a while and are pretty basic so not something someone with 30 years experience would misidentify.
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    Re: thoughts on genes?

    Quote Originally Posted by Pleco View Post
    the guy has bred balls for 30 years and puts on the shows of our states herp society...thats why i posted here also
    Just because u can breed snakes doesn’t mean ur a reputable breeder. I wouldn’t buy a spider ball because I’m not a fan of breeding them. So if I paid money and was told something completely wrong I’d be upset.
    I’m just a bill sitting on top of capital hill.

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    Re: thoughts on genes?

    Quote Originally Posted by Danger noodles View Post
    Looks like a low quality purple passion and the second snake is not what u were told, I’m not sure what it is but looks to definitely have spider in it.

    i hope these are not snakes u plan on breeding and are just some pretty pets for u

    i was going to breed them down the road. not to make money but just to have some pretty babies. maybe some single genes will come out on the babies. if i sell some, it will be very cheap as i clearly am an ametuer

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    Re: thoughts on genes?

    Quote Originally Posted by Stewart_Reptiles View Post
    Pastel Enchi Calico and Super Pastel Enchi Calico have been around for a while and are pretty basic so not something someone with 30 years experience would misidentify.
    And the fact that it has spider in it. If I can see that a breeder should know it’s wrong when he looked at the card and it was that far off.

    Sorry man man but I got lied to. If they are pets then oh well they are pretty
    I’m just a bill sitting on top of capital hill.

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    Re: thoughts on genes?

    Quote Originally Posted by Pleco View Post
    i was going to breed them down the road. not to make money but just to have some pretty babies. maybe some single genes will come out on the babies. if i sell some, it will be very cheap as i clearly am an ametuer
    I’d think twice before breeding the spider, maybe do so research on the problems they have
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    Re: thoughts on genes?

    Quote Originally Posted by Danger noodles View Post
    I’d think twice before breeding the spider, maybe do so research on the problems they have

    im aware of the head wobble. i paid 200 for that one and 250 for the purple passion. not that upset as they weren't expensive and not introducing into a breeding line. im now even more curious on whats in there on the now determined spider morph

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    Re: thoughts on genes?

    Quote Originally Posted by Pleco View Post
    curious on whats in there on the now determined spider morph
    High white side, head marking and spider web pattern on the back.
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    Re: thoughts on genes?

    so my friend got a pet that he doesn't plan to breed but out of curiosity he bought this at the show from a different breeder labeled as a pastel...would you guys agree?

    https://i.postimg.cc/bww5FpfP/IMG950858.jpg

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