Ball python spazzing out during the day

[Valyndris]

I'm so worried about my little Crowley I am in tears from what he's doing. So in an earlier post I mentioned how he'd twitch when I was petting him gently, I was told this was because he didn't want to be handled/touched. I'm afraid it could be something worse. He couldn't sleep today, he had his back end half in his hide this morning so I put his bum back in his hide and left him alone. About 4 hours later he moved the hide and twitched his head out like he was spazzing. His hides are light but I am currently in the process of trying to get slate rocks to hold them down. I'm not sure what to do as every time he goes in his hide he does a twitching spaz and knocks his hide way out of place.

I tried bringing him in his room as he does have a hide at 90 degrees and one at 80 degrees in there and the humidity is fine at the moment. He was spazzing just as much in there as soon as he'd try going in a hide, I also offered him his tent as it is soft but he didn't want to go in there. I put him back in his main tank to see if he could go to sleep but now he's spazzing even more. I just took a video which brought me to tears as you can probably hear in the video. He just keeps doing that and if I try to fix it I feel like I'm just stressing him out even further.

Please help, I don't know what is wrong with my baby, he was fine yesterday.

Here's the video:

[Toad37]

Could it have anything to do with that giant ass bird you have right next to him?! In the wild birds are predators so he might be associating your bird with death. I'd say separate them asap.

[Valyndris]

He's been fine with the giant bird, I've had the bird since the end of April and it wasn't a problem till now, Crowley is still spazzing around and my nearest vet is 3 and a half hours away.

[Luvyna]

That kind of looks like a seizure to me, maybe a vet trip is in order

Really hoping Crowley will be okay, that video was really hard to watch

[wnateg]

Have you checked for mites?

But either way, vet is probably a good idea.

[Valyndris]

Have you checked for mites?

But either way, vet is probably a good idea.

I don't see any mites, I tried to hold his hide down while he went in it and he spazzed so hard I couldn't even hold it down. He's been doing what he did on that video for almost an hour now. If he doesn't get better I will have to take that 3 and a half hour trip to the vet. I really hope my baby will be okay. It's so painful seeming him like this, he's only 6 years old.

[Bogertophis]

So sorry...I would NOT put heavy things on his hides to hold them down...they may slide off onto him & hurt him.

It does sort of look like a seizure to me too, vet trip may be a good idea. Also you might ask the vet if you should bring any bird droppings to test...it's possible that
your bird is carrying something that could make your snake sick, & since he's in close contact (same room etc) that might be worth looking into rather than a "shot in
the dark treatment".

Feel better soon, little Crowley.

[Valyndris]

So sorry...I would NOT put heavy things on his hides to hold them down...they may slide off onto him & hurt him.

It does sort of look like a seizure to me too, vet trip may be a good idea. Also you might ask the vet if you should bring any bird droppings to test...it's possible that
your bird is carrying something that could make your snake sick, & since he's in close contact (same room etc) that might be worth looking into rather than a "shot in
the dark treatment".

Feel better soon, little Crowley.

Thank you so much for your answer, Crowley is still having a hard time, poor little guy. I won't put rocks on the hides then. My bird poops so much I have no issue bringing in a sample. I'll probably have to do an emergency visit to the vet tomorrow if Crowley isn't doing any better by then. At least I know people who live near the vet but it's 3 and a half hours away for me so today isn't an option.

[Bogertophis]

Another thing: are you renting where you live? (some landlords spray without much notice when you're not home) And is there any chance that he's come in
contact with any pesticides while on his "missions"? Or what about any other chemicals...like room freshener sprays, cleaning chemicals, etc.?

[Valyndris]

Another thing: are you renting where you live? (some landlords spray without much notice when you're not home) And is there any chance that he's come in
contact with any pesticides while on his "missions"? Or what about any other chemicals...like room freshener sprays, cleaning chemicals, etc.?

I own, so no pesticides and I don't use air fresheners or anything that smells really because it's lethal to birds and I have a parrot. I didn't even use the hair dryer to tighten plastics on the windows as that can also kill a bird with just the fumes. I use unscented detergent, non-Teflon pans (Ceramic). Nothing recent has changed with what I do in or around the house.