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    Re: Escaped eight foot long retic eats possum in PA

    Quote Originally Posted by 303_enfield View Post
    Glad the snake is safe. Wonder if I could adopt it? Worth the drive
    "In the sanctuary's search for the owner, Rothacker said that at least one neighbor had contacted the sanctuary saying that the owner probably will not come forward to claim the python.This was the third time the python had escaped, the neighbor told Rothacker. If the owner does not come forward to claim the snake, the next step would be to find her a forever home."

    You might watch the adoptions on their web site, You might get the chance to adopt it.

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    Re: Escaped eight foot long retic eats possum in PA

    Quote Originally Posted by Reinz View Post
    Sounds like you may have missed the part where they X-rayed the snake.
    It looked like it just ate an opossum skeleton... lol
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    Re: Escaped eight foot long retic eats possum in PA

    Quote Originally Posted by Stewart_Reptiles View Post
    Great another irresponsible idiot bringing more negative light on snake keepers
    My first thought was "I hope that meal stays down and the snake is ok"

    My second thought "oh goody, more bad press because some dummy let their retic escape".

    Then when I read through the article and saw a neighbor quoted saying this was "at least the third time" the snake escaped it infuriated me. I mean really?!?! This moron has let a retic escape three times?? At least?? This person should not be allowed to keep pets, ever.

    This is exactly why I'm in favor of an application process for pets, especially pets that when mishandled can be dangerous to children or other pets.
    But I guess it would be hard to deny someone. "I'm sorry, you're too stupid, I can't sell you this animal" probably wouldn't go over well.
    Since that will never happen, should breeders of the giants be more responsible with who they sell to? Because I think so. Not every idiot with a couple hundred bucks should be able to walk into an expo/store and walk out with a retic 10 minutes later. First and foremost, these animals can be dangerous, and second, the animals deserve proper homes and care.

    And to be fair, I think a basic competency test should be required for ALL animal purchases. They are living creatures after all.
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    Re: Escaped eight foot long retic eats possum in PA

    Quote Originally Posted by Craiga 01453 View Post
    My first thought was "I hope that meal stays down and the snake is ok"

    My second thought "oh goody, more bad press because some dummy let their retic escape".

    Then when I read through the article and saw a neighbor quoted saying this was "at least the third time" the snake escaped it infuriated me. I mean really?!?! This moron has let a retic escape three times?? At least?? This person should not be allowed to keep pets, ever.

    This is exactly why I'm in favor of an application process for pets, especially pets that when mishandled can be dangerous to children or other pets.
    But I guess it would be hard to deny someone. "I'm sorry, you're too stupid, I can't sell you this animal" probably wouldn't go over well.
    Since that will never happen, should breeders of the giants be more responsible with who they sell to? Because I think so. Not every idiot with a couple hundred bucks should be able to walk into an expo/store and walk out with a retic 10 minutes later. First and foremost, these animals can be dangerous, and second, the animals deserve proper homes and care.

    And to be fair, I think a basic competency test should be required for ALL animal purchases. They are living creatures after all.
    I don't want to derail the thread, but I talk about this with people all the time. It does seem crazy to me, that for about $100, you can buy the world's longest snake. You don't need experience or anything, just $100, and you have something that is dangerous and requires a lot of care.

    In a perfect world, people would be responsible enough to know whether or not they should buy one. Because I don't think there should necessarily be regulation through laws or anything, but overall, it's something interesting to think about.
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    But I guess it would be hard to deny someone. "I'm sorry, you're too stupid, I can't sell you this animal" probably wouldn't go over well.
    Well it needs to be a little more diplomatic like I do not think this animal is the right fit for you......works wonder without being insulting and it covers a variety of thing from idiot you know have no business owning a snake to people wanting to buy a young hatchling for a 10 years old.................Always worked for me.

    And to be fair, I think a basic competency test should be required for ALL animal purchases. They are living creatures after all.
    100% this I don't care what animal you sell as a breeder, a conversation to gauge whether or not the animal is right for the person goes a long way not only that, but if the person is a forum member or has a facebook, it can tell you a lot as well.

    Sure sometime you have no red flags I have seen people going from very passionate to neglect in matter of years but I do think some breeders make very little effort to gauge customers and they should especially with things that have the potential to bring some real bad publicity on all of us. (giant, venomous etc)
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    Re: Escaped eight foot long retic eats possum in PA

    Quote Originally Posted by Stewart_Reptiles View Post
    Well it needs to be a little more diplomatic like I do not think this animal is the right fit for you......works wonder without being insulting and it covers a variety of thing from idiot you know have no business owning a snake to people wanting to buy a young hatchling for a 10 years old.................Always worked for me.

    100% this I don't care what animal you sell as a breeder, a conversation to gauge whether or not the animal is right for the person goes a long way not only that, but if the person is a forum member or has a facebook, it can tell you a lot as well.

    Sure sometime you have no red flags I have seen people going from very passionate to neglect in matter of years but I do think some breeders make very little effort to gauge customers and they should especially with things that have the potential to bring some real bad publicity on all of us. (giant, venomous etc)
    Hahhahaha, yes the diplomatic approach is definitely the right way to go.

    And yes, you're absolutely right. Just a conversation with the customer goes a long way. Unfortunately your morals and ethics aren't the norm.
    Good thing we have resources like this forum to help us find the reputable breeders who do care.

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    You have to wonder what happens to a large number of the retics that are sold. I would think they would be considered a "niche" snake because of the size they can reach. I wouldn't think there is a huge market for them. Certainly not like boas and BPs. Even Burmese. Some of these big breeders crank them out like crazy. I often wonder how many of them end up in the wrong hands.

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    Re: Escaped eight foot long retic eats possum in PA

    Quote Originally Posted by Reinz View Post
    Sounds like you may have missed the part where they X-rayed the snake.
    No,I read it."An x-ray on Sunday revealed that "all the evidence points to a possum," the sanctuary posted on Facebook."
    X-ray:
    https://www.facebook.com/forgottenfriend/photos/a.10150109189393800/10157205211463800/?type=3&theater

    Really doesn't look like an Opossum.

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    Re: Escaped eight foot long retic eats possum in PA

    Quote Originally Posted by 303_enfield View Post
    No,I read it."An x-ray on Sunday revealed that "all the evidence points to a possum," the sanctuary posted on Facebook."
    X-ray:
    https://www.facebook.com/forgottenfriend/photos/a.10150109189393800/10157205211463800/?type=3&theater

    Really doesn't look like an Opossum.
    Opossum:
    http://www.savalli.us/BIO370/Anatomy...letonLabel.jpg

    Coon:
    https://www.welcomewildlife.com/wp-c...n-skeleton.jpg

    Looks like a pelvis of a coon. But it doesn't matter as long as the snake is healthy an safe now.

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    Re: Escaped eight foot long retic eats possum in PA

    Quote Originally Posted by 303_enfield View Post
    Opossum:
    http://www.savalli.us/BIO370/Anatomy...letonLabel.jpg

    Coon:
    https://www.welcomewildlife.com/wp-c...n-skeleton.jpg

    Looks like a pelvis of a coon. But it doesn't matter as long as the snake is healthy an safe now.
    I also thought it was too big to be a opossum, but it turns out the vets analyzing the x-ray considered this as well. They ruled out the possibility of the animal being a raccoon because the x-ray showed "organs from a hindgut fermenter, which eliminates cats, dogs, or raccoons".

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