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    Variation or did I make an ID mistake?

    When they first hatched, I called them both cinnabees, but as they are growing I'm noticing differences that are making me wonder if I've made a mistake. I will refer to the snakes as "Head Stamp" and "No Head Stamp" for ease of telling them apart. Here are the differences I noticed between them:
    Head Stamp: has a head stamp, has a speckled belly, has alien heads with eyes, very little if any side pattern white, and brown that bleeds into the dorsal stripe.

    Are they both Cinnabees or did I make a mistake? Pairing was a pewterbee to a lesser or a black pastel.

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    Any guesses?

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    Re: Variation or did I make an ID mistake?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tila View Post
    Any guesses?
    I'm with you on 2 Cinnabee's.
    One looks like the pattern is reduced.
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    Re: Variation or did I make an ID mistake?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Sorril View Post
    I'm with you on 2 Cinnabee's.
    One looks like the pattern is reduced.
    If you were to keep one, which would you choose? I'm leaning toward the reduced, but 2 look like that and Head Stamp is the only one like that so I'm worried I'm choosing the wrong one.

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    Re: Variation or did I make an ID mistake?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tila View Post
    If you were to keep one, which would you choose?
    That would depend on the next morph target for the breeding project:
    If the morph I'm trying to produce is going to be obvious-I would use the Reduced Pattern one to keep it clean.
    If the morph is going to be a bit messy: I would use the one with the obvious head stamp (to increase the ease of offspring ID).
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    i think it's variation. also more likely the Black Pastel is the dad and the clean, reduced one is a Cinnabee and the other one is a Black Bee. Black Pastels tend to be a lil busier than their allelic Cinny counterparts.

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    Re: Variation or did I make an ID mistake?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ax01 View Post
    i think it's variation. also more likely the Black Pastel is the dad and the clean, reduced one is a Cinnabee and the other one is a Black Bee. Black Pastels tend to be a lil busier than their allelic Cinny counterparts.

    I was wondering about the dad situation. All 3 cinna/black bees have a really strong dorsal stripe and it seems as though in the black bee pictures I've seen, the snakes had reduced dorsal patterning altogether so I didn't know if that meant Head Stamp couldn't be a possible black bee.

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