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    Re: New Scrub - Very Frightened / Nervous

    Quote Originally Posted by EL-Ziggy View Post
    They're both gorgeous. Which one did you choose?
    The female. I think that's the bottom one in the picture, because it looks like the top has a band I don't recall seeing. When she warms up, I'll see about getting a picture myself.
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    Re: New Scrub - Very Frightened / Nervous

    Congrats on your new pickup! She’s gorgeous! Joe always gets his hands on killer animals. Did he mention whether she is WC or CB? I’d say the likelihood is very high that she has been handled very little, if at all, in her two years of life. So she will probably just require some patience.

    Interesting that she she did not eat for you. Did you mention her current setup? One thing that should be mentioned is that scrubs are NOTORIOUSLY cage defensive. Once out, she will likely calm down. It’s the getting her out that’s the trick

    In that respect, a glove might help you feel more confident when its time for removal. (Anyone who says gloves are for sissies has never been bitten by an arboreal snake. She has teeth like your ETB and will not hesitate to use them on your face) as scrubs gain size, it is also helpful to use a basking shelf or removable perches in the cage, rather than branches. (I have not yet made this transition and simply don’t bother trying to move my scrub when he’s perched anymore. Not worth the fight.)

    You will be do delighted with this animal, though she may require extra patience. Scrubs are fiercely intelligent and handling is definitely about respect, rather than domination. 2 years later and I still sometimes have to just quietly set my hand in my scrubs cage for a little to see how he feels about it that particular day. He’s the tamest, sweetest scrubby I know, yet he still never comes out of his cage willingly.

    You’re in for such a treat!

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    Re: New Scrub - Very Frightened / Nervous

    Quote Originally Posted by Team Slytherin View Post
    Congrats on your new pickup! She’s gorgeous! Joe always gets his hands on killer animals. Did he mention whether she is WC or CB? I’d say the likelihood is very high that she has been handled very little, if at all, in her two years of life. So she will probably just require some patience.

    Interesting that she she did not eat for you. Did you mention her current setup? One thing that should be mentioned is that scrubs are NOTORIOUSLY cage defensive. Once out, she will likely calm down. It’s the getting her out that’s the trick

    In that respect, a glove might help you feel more confident when its time for removal. (Anyone who says gloves are for sissies has never been bitten by an arboreal snake. She has teeth like your ETB and will not hesitate to use them on your face) as scrubs gain size, it is also helpful to use a basking shelf or removable perches in the cage, rather than branches. (I have not yet made this transition and simply don’t bother trying to move my scrub when he’s perched anymore. Not worth the fight.)

    You will be do delighted with this animal, though she may require extra patience. Scrubs are fiercely intelligent and handling is definitely about respect, rather than domination. 2 years later and I still sometimes have to just quietly set my hand in my scrubs cage for a little to see how he feels about it that particular day. He’s the tamest, sweetest scrubby I know, yet he still never comes out of his cage willingly.

    You’re in for such a treat!
    Thank you! I appreciate you putting so much thought into a reply.

    I believe she is CH. I've only handled her twice. Once to get her out of the shipping box and once more to adjust something in her tote (she is in a plastic tote while I work on her permanent enclosure), and both times all she did was desperately try to get away while peeing and pooping. So much so that it seemed rude to try to hold her for any extended period of time. I've seen her peak her head out of her hide periodically, but not much else. I'm going to try to feed again tomorrow. I will certainly update the results.
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    Re: New Scrub - Very Frightened / Nervous

    Dangled a ft small rat outside of the hide for a bit, she didn't come out, so I left it overnight, and when I woke up, it was still there.
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    Re: New Scrub - Very Frightened / Nervous

    Quote Originally Posted by wnateg View Post
    Dangled a ft small rat outside of the hide for a bit, she didn't come out, so I left it overnight, and when I woke up, it was still there.
    Well you've only had her for what, a week+? And she's 2 years old, so I'd assume it's far more stressful on her that her entire world has just radically changed. She feels
    very threatened, & with nervous re-homed snakes, it's often best not to even try to feed for 2+ weeks while they settle in, as they may regurgitate what they swallow just because they're still panicked. Note, I have no experience with these specifically, but just known many snakes of all kinds for many years...just be patient. Very patient.

    These are not the calmest snakes to begin with, right? But in time your efforts should pay off, & she's very pretty btw. At first I thought you got a 2-headed snake, from the photo...
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    Re: New Scrub - Very Frightened / Nervous

    Quote Originally Posted by Bogertophis View Post
    Well you've only had her for what, a week? And she's 2 years old, so I'd assume it's far more stressful on her that her entire world has just radically changed. She feels
    very threatened, & with nervous re-homed snakes, it's often best not to even try to feed for 2 weeks while they settle in, as they may regurgitate what they swallow just
    because they're still panicked. Note, I have no experience with these specifically, but just known many snakes of all kinds for many years...just be patient. Very patient.
    These are not the calmest snakes to begin with, right? But in time your efforts should pay off, & she's very pretty btw. At first I thought you got a 2-headed snake,
    from the photo...
    Yea, that definitely all makes sense. It just makes me worry a lot when my pets aren't happy. Makes me want to do something, but there's really nothing to be done but wait I suppose.
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    Re: New Scrub - Very Frightened / Nervous

    Quote Originally Posted by wnateg View Post
    Yea, that definitely all makes sense. It just makes me worry a lot when my pets aren't happy. Makes me want to do something, but there's really nothing to be done but wait I suppose.
    I know the feeling...but remember that even a captive-bred snake is still a "wild" snake at heart. Be patient, try to imagine how crazy this all seems to her. She assumes
    you're a predator, that's all that picks up a snake in nature, so it takes time to change her mind. The snakes we have to work the hardest on can be the most rewarding
    though, in the long-run when we succeed.
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    Re: New Scrub - Very Frightened / Nervous

    Could she possibly be preparing to shed? If she's hiding day and night I wouldn't rule it out. In any event, don't worry about her not eating just yet. Double check your temps and if they're dialed in just leave her alone for 2 weeks before offering food again. Maybe she'll get build up an appetite in the interim. She's a well established animal at this point so it won't hurt to space out her feedings a bit. I feed my 2 y/o male a small or medium rat biweekly. I'm sure your girl will get on track soon.
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    Re: New Scrub - Very Frightened / Nervous

    Quote Originally Posted by EL-Ziggy View Post
    Could she possibly be preparing to shed? If she's hiding day and night I wouldn't rule it out. In any event, don't worry about her not eating just yet. Double check your temps and if they're dialed in just leave her alone for 2 weeks before offering food again. Maybe she'll get build up an appetite in the interim. She's a well established animal at this point so it won't hurt to space out her feedings a bit. I feed my 2 y/o male a small or medium rat biweekly. I'm sure your girl will get on track soon.
    It's possible. I havent been able to get a good enough look at her to know for sure.

    Alright, that sounds like a reasonable plan. Thank you!
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    Re: New Scrub - Very Frightened / Nervous

    Good news. I installed a night vision camera to see if she was active when I was gone, as I hadn't seen her out for a week. And when I pulled it up in the chickfila drivethru, she was perched up on the wood. She was rubbing her face a lot, like she was trying to get shed off, but I didn't see any shed. So that was weird. The humidity is 70%, so it shouldn't be stuck, if it is shed. She went into hiding when I opened the front door, so I'm not sure.
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