My baby ball python died.... anybody know why?

[Bogertophis]

For 1 if you would’ve read my thread I said they GAVE it to Me I didn’t “get” it
and 2 everything I had from the other snake was thoroughly cleaned out.

Doesn't matter if you bought it or they gave it to you...the end result is the same.

get /ɡet/ verb 1.come to have or hold (something); receive.

• synonyms:

  acquire, obtain, come by, come to have, come into possession of, receive, gain, earn, win, come into, come in for, take possession of, take receipt of, be given;

And what you don't seem to "get" is that we're just trying to help you so you don't repeat a sad outcome.

[John1982]

It just rolls over on its backside as if it needed Help flipping over. I then picked it up And laid it in Properly and instead of it going into his favorite rock he just stayed in front of it on the substrate. I thought everything was normal as he didn’t show any symptoms of anything. I left the room for about 15minutes to eat. I came back and he had a mouth full of substrate and was rolling his head back, I looked up “the wobble” and it seemed similar to what he was doin except he looked like he had it worse, his top head was literally almost touching his back.

Any explanation about the head roll?

What you witnessed were death throes. When a snake starts twisting and turning and biting randomly like that, the end is nigh. At that point, there was nothing you could do to change the situation. Most illnesses are going to show some kind of symptoms before you get to the end stages. I think Bogertophis's is on the right track with likely overheating. I'm not sure where you took the snake or how but overexposure to the sun is not something people often think about and a lesson most learn the hard way. I learned firsthand about the greenhouse effect when I was a kid and cooked some Sceloporus I had field collected and left out on the deck in a coffee can while I went inside to eat lunch. It was a cool day and I thought nothing of leaving the can in direct sunlight. Came back maybe 10 minutes later to dead lizards and boy did I feel terrible. To this day I'm extremely careful, borderline paranoid, about unchecked sun exposure. Even in a cool car, something in a container that's set in direct sunlight can heat up to lethal levels faster than you'd believe. Not necessarily what happened to your snake but something to be aware of nonetheless.

[Awesomethepossum]

I'm very sorry to hear about the loss of your snake. And I hope the new one you were given lives a long, healthy life.

If you wish to get more pets down the line, I agree with the others in recommending that you avoid petstores...and take any advice they offer you with a grain of salt.

I say this, because as a young kid, I lost between 6-7 leopard geckos, one after the other, to a deadly, highly contagious disease. All from the same petstore chain. At the time, I had assumed it was by my own failings in proper husbandry and this devastated me. While the animals appeared healthy enough in their display tanks, their actual enclosures weren't sanitized properly, so every animal that went in those tanks became infected and rapidly deteriorated.

But yes...as I lost my geckos, they would offer another..free of charge. And another, etc. And as I said these were animals that otherwise looked healthy at the time, and the employees were oblivious.

With that in mind, I currently have a female leopard gecko who is approximately 8.5 years old, and who I purchased from a petstore as a hatchling. She is the sweetest, and I love her to death. However, she has had a fair amount of health issues over the years, which I attribute to her questionable breeding. My other two leos were purchased from reputable breeders at expos, and there is definitely a marked difference in their "quality" (they're notably more robust and resilient). But between the three, she is the biggest pig, and has the friendliest personality I just have to keep a closer eye on her, is all.

Sure my story was about geckos, but it doesn't matter with petstores. It's still a mixed bag.

[glowstone]

Besides the fact that your snakes were both from chain stores, which we all have explained is a bad idea (Not your fault, you didnt know and are still beginning, we all start somewhere. Though next time you should do the research first, even on where to buy! Just make sure you learn from this) Ill run over a few things to narrow down why your snake may have passed. Sorry if this is patronizing but im just assuming you dont know anything since youre new to keeping.

Do you have pictures of the snake + enclosure? Humidity and temp seem fine from what you said but thats all for nothing if you have the wrong type of substrate or something in your tank thats harmful. (sadly i see all too often people having pine in their enclosure without knowing its toxic to bps!)
Also important: thermostat and humidity gauge if you dont have them already. Dont get the kind with the sticky backs because they can be VERY harmful to your bp.
((and dont smoke or burn candles/incense/ have aroma diffusers in the same room as your snake, they only have one lung and they can die from that kind of stuff))

How long ago did you get this snake? How long did you wait to handle said snake after you got it? Did you feed this snake before you handled it? Stress can also make snakes die suddenly. (reasons to not take snakes on airplanes or random places or. do dumb stuff like throw them? idk dont do anything that would stress your snake out)

How hot is the lukewarm water? Remember that our internal temp is 90ish degrees, so anything warm for us is REALLY warm to them, for proper lukewarm water for snakes you actually want it to be room temp to the touch or slightly cool. Maybe how a pool feels or a tab bit warmer.

For future reference, dont take snakes out on errands no matter how short and tempting, especially in the summer. If you can get heat stroke from being out too long, think about what the heat can do to their tiny bodies, not to mention being in the wrong humidity for too long.

Im very sorry to hear about your snake dying, especially one so young! I wish you luck in the future (especially with those mites your new one has... thats rough!) All I can say is do more research. Research until you think you know everything, then research some more! And of course make sure those sources are reliable. Husbandry is so important in reptile keeping, snakes are very delicate creatures. BPs are pretty easy in comparison to other snakes but people really hype up how much of a 'beginner' snake they are and how 'easy' they are.

[Bogertophis]

...Remember that our internal temp is 90ish degrees, so anything warm for us is REALLY warm to them, for proper lukewarm water for snakes you actually want it to be room temp to the touch or slightly cool. Maybe how a pool feels or a tab bit warmer...

Just wanted to add, human body temperature is actually closer to 100*...our "normal" is 98.6*, so yes, what feels warm to us will be way too hot for our snakes. It's a very easy (& common) mistake that owners make.

[glowstone]

yes thank you bogertophis! i couldnt remember the exact temp.

[BV2]

Doesn't matter if you bought it or they gave it to you...the end result is the same.

get /ɡet/ verb 1.come to have or hold (something); receive.

• synonyms:

  acquire, obtain, come by, come to have, come into possession of, receive, gain, earn, win, come into, come in for, take possession of, take receipt of, be given;

And what you don't seem to "get" is that we're just trying to help you so you don't repeat a sad outcome.

at this point you’re just here and being annoying unlike other people who are commenting once again something USEFUL. So since you’re not sayin anything informational you can get off the thread 👍🏼

[Craiga 01453]

at this point you’re just here and being annoying unlike other people who are commenting once again something USEFUL. So since you’re not sayin anything informational you can get off the thread 👍🏼

Any updates on the mite situation?

[BV2]

Any updates on the mite situation?

I watched a video from “goherping” and I thoroughly checked him he’s good must’ve been just the substrate falling off.

[BV2]

I finally figured out how to upload pictures of how my snake was when he died anybody know why was happening ?




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