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    Smallest snake

    What is the smallest snake that can go into the smallest enclosure, that is not too hard to find?
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    Male Hognose stay pretty tiny. I see they're on your want list.

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    Hognose for Colubrids but if you are open to non colubrids Children's Pythons and Sand Boas.
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    Re: Smallest snake

    I am open to anything, Colubrids or otherwise. I have the BP and the MBK.... and working on getting a woma and boa. But, I was thinking about how cool it'd be to have something really small on my desk in the home office. So, i'd have to be whatever species can use the absolute smallest enclosure.
    0.1 Mexican Black Kingsnake (Tynee)
    0.1 BEL Ball (Luna)
    0.1 Sunglow Boa (Pippi Longsnake)
    0.1 Woma Python (Uma)


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    - Mangrove Snake

    - Russian Rat Snake
    - Eastern Indigo
    - Black Milk Snake
    - False Water Cobra
    - Rhino Rat Snake
    - Thai Bamboo Rat Snake
    - Western Hognose
    - Kenyan Sand Boa

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    Might look into some of the grey-banded king snakes or milk snakes (some stay pretty small). I have a TX longnose snake (very pretty- black, red, yellow) that's
    over 17 years old & about 32" (slender), but they're rarely available c/b & can be challenging to get eating pink/fuzzy mice (they consume lizards mostly in the
    wild, or even tiny snakes+) but once established make a really nice pet. Similarly, if you can find a glossy snake, they stay a similar size but readily eat small mice-
    they're shades of beige with freckles, & much like a longnose snake, both have a narrow gape & docile demeanor, & both are desert-type species.

    The thing with really tiny snakes (like shovel-nose snakes) is that their diet is often challenging to provide (especially year-round) & they don't handle well.

    Rosy & rubber boas, sand boas & W. hognose snakes are also options, as already mentioned.
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    I recently acquired a stimpsons python and she is super cool

    very pretty with al the python attitude in a Tiny package.

    Foerce eater but chill to handle and work with. Easy set up and easy on the eyes. Their eyes speaking of are super cool and bright.

    That would be my vote.
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    Re: Smallest snake

    Quote Originally Posted by Phillydubs View Post
    I recently acquired a stimpsons python and she is super cool

    very pretty with al the python attitude in a Tiny package.

    Foerce eater but chill to handle and work with. Easy set up and easy on the eyes. Their eyes speaking of are super cool and bright.

    That would be my vote.
    YES! I have a Children's python, same sort of thing...aspires to be a big python, but never will be. Mine is docile to handle too, just a bit food crazy tho- FUN!

    And while I've never personally kept them, garter snakes would also be an excellent choice, but again, note the different dietary needs etc. Depends if you just want a snake to watch, or one that handles well???

    Also corn snakes take quite a while to outgrow a 10-20 gal. tank...some get over 4' but not all. Plus they eat readily, handle nicely, come in great colors,
    have easy temp. requirements, and they love to climb, so the tank can have a smaller "footprint" on your desk & more height. Same for Children's python,
    except they need lots more warmth than corn snakes do.

    There's so many good choices, you might as well get a bigger desk...?
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    House snake is one of the smaller options that you can readily find CBB and are easy to feed. My personal favorites are the big eyed Namibians(Boaedon mentalis). Another unique looking critter for a small desktop enclosure could be Eryx jayakari - guess I got a thing for weird eyes, haha. Not as easy to find as the house snakes but one would offer you a cool display option. You could set up a little sand garden type deal from which you might occasionally see an eye gazing back at you.

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    What size of an enclosure are you planning to use? Even for a Children Python (about 2-3 feet) needs something tall for climbing, like a 29 gallon tall at minimum. A gray banded king is slightly smaller than a CP but I would not house it in less than a 20 gallon long. In other words, finding a snake that can stretch out or live comfortable and with spare space to move around in a 10 gallon tank or smaller is quite the challenge. While it can be done with CP or GBK or others to keep them in a 10 gallon tank, the question is should you? Adding 2 hides and a water bowl immediately takes up most of the floor space. You will probably need to look into the less commonly kept snakes, mostly likely imports, and they usually come with feeding challenges as mentioned by the other posts.

    The only kind of pet that I can think of that could be kept comfortably in a 5-10 gallon tank is a small group of 3-4 neon tetras fish.

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    Re: Smallest snake

    Quote Originally Posted by Cheesenugget View Post
    What size of an enclosure are you planning to use? Even for a Children Python (about 2-3 feet) needs something tall for climbing, like a 29 gallon tall at minimum. A gray banded king is slightly smaller than a CP but I would not house it in less than a 20 gallon long. In other words, finding a snake that can stretch out or live comfortable and with spare space to move around in a 10 gallon tank or smaller is quite the challenge. While it can be done with CP or GBK or others to keep them in a 10 gallon tank, the question is should you? Adding 2 hides and a water bowl immediately takes up most of the floor space. You will probably need to look into the less commonly kept snakes, mostly likely imports, and they usually come with feeding challenges as mentioned by the other posts.

    The only kind of pet that I can think of that could be kept comfortably in a 5-10 gallon tank is a small group of 3-4 neon tetras fish.
    I never said 5-10 gallon tank. I said smallest snake in the smallest enclosure. I have been doing snakes long enough to know not to put a 3 ft. snake into a 20" enclosure. And, no, definitely not fish. Like you said, I am looking at less commonly kept snakes, which is the reason I also asked "not too hard to find". Please don't assume I am trying to stuff a snake into a small enclosure. That is not what I asked.
    0.1 Mexican Black Kingsnake (Tynee)
    0.1 BEL Ball (Luna)
    0.1 Sunglow Boa (Pippi Longsnake)
    0.1 Woma Python (Uma)


    WANT LIST
    - Mangrove Snake

    - Russian Rat Snake
    - Eastern Indigo
    - Black Milk Snake
    - False Water Cobra
    - Rhino Rat Snake
    - Thai Bamboo Rat Snake
    - Western Hognose
    - Kenyan Sand Boa

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