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    3rd clutch, help IDing?

    Please help me with my last clutch of the season. The mum was a cinnabee x dad a ? Both are pictured as non-numbered snakes. My guess is:
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    3. Cinnabee
    4. Cinnabee
    5. Cinnabee
    6. Bumblebee
    7. Bumblebee +?

    Questions: does the 3 cinnabee's back stripes mean anything? This is different than their mum. What is the difference between 7 and 8?

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    Re: 3rd clutch, help IDing?

    I'm terrible at guessing morphs but I will say they are all gorgeous snakes. Congratulations!

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    Re: 3rd clutch, help IDing?

    Any guesses?

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    Re: 3rd clutch, help IDing?

    Do you guys think I should do a different post about the two questions I have specifically?

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    I'mma try to answer. Please note, I do not have any Spider stuff, so take this with a grain of salt.

    First, Dad is a Lesser/Butter. Mom actually looks to be a browned-out Pewter Bee. At least, that's how she looks from here.
    Second, totally agree with your IDs of babies 1-5

    Baby 6: Could be a Queen Bee or a Pewter Bee. I don't think it's a Queen Bee Cinnamon, but, like I said, I don't work with Spider. A post-shed pic in better lighting (natural, indirect sunlight, like through a window with a white curtain or similar).
    Baby 7: Bumble Bee

    Striping may or may not mean anything. It could be polygenic, could be an incubation effect. Or both.
    The difference between Babies 6 and 7 is that 7 is only Spider and Pastel, while 6 is Spider, Pastel, and a third gene. This third gene is paling the color more than just Pastel.


    Hopefully that was at all helpful
    Last edited by Alicia; 08-05-2019 at 11:58 PM.

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    Re: 3rd clutch, help IDing?

    This was enormously helpful! Alicia, you have really helped me out! These suggestions let me to branch out my image search. I can take more pictures to share once they shed. I make name tags for their tubs and I like to at least have a guess as to the genes in them as well as a picture of them. I tried image searching and various sources but I was struggling to find snakes that could fit within the natural variation margin. I was just missing the mark.

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