3rd clutch, help IDing?

[Tila]

Please help me with my last clutch of the season. The mum was a cinnabee x dad a ? Both are pictured as non-numbered snakes. My guess is:
1. Normal
2. Cinnamon
3. Cinnabee
4. Cinnabee
5. Cinnabee
6. Bumblebee
7. Bumblebee +?

Questions: does the 3 cinnabee's back stripes mean anything? This is different than their mum. What is the difference between 7 and 8?

Thanks everyone!

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[Skeptiball]

I'm terrible at guessing morphs but I will say they are all gorgeous snakes. Congratulations!

[Tila]

Any guesses?

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[Tila]

Do you guys think I should do a different post about the two questions I have specifically?

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[Alicia]

I'mma try to answer. Please note, I do not have any Spider stuff, so take this with a grain of salt.

First, Dad is a Lesser/Butter. Mom actually looks to be a browned-out Pewter Bee. At least, that's how she looks from here.
Second, totally agree with your IDs of babies 1-5

Baby 6: Could be a Queen Bee or a Pewter Bee. I don't think it's a Queen Bee Cinnamon, but, like I said, I don't work with Spider. A post-shed pic in better lighting (natural, indirect sunlight, like through a window with a white curtain or similar).
Baby 7: Bumble Bee

Striping may or may not mean anything. It could be polygenic, could be an incubation effect. Or both.
The difference between Babies 6 and 7 is that 7 is only Spider and Pastel, while 6 is Spider, Pastel, and a third gene. This third gene is paling the color more than just Pastel.


Hopefully that was at all helpful

[Tila]

This was enormously helpful! Alicia, you have really helped me out! These suggestions let me to branch out my image search. I can take more pictures to share once they shed. I make name tags for their tubs and I like to at least have a guess as to the genes in them as well as a picture of them. I tried image searching and various sources but I was struggling to find snakes that could fit within the natural variation margin. I was just missing the mark.

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