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    Update: Juice is still not quite himself. He seems to have mellowed a little, but he's still constantly in defensive position. He took another strike at me the other night. Typically he will kinda pull back when he see me or if I lift his hide. Now if he sees me he's half out his hide watching my every move. If I lift his hide me comes towards me rather than retreating, which is keeping me on my toes.

    Now, I've noticed a change in Dembe, my newest BP. He hissed about 2 weeks ago (first time in my care), and I noticed he was in the very early stages of shed, so I chalked it up to that and let him do his thing...
    Since he shed out he's hissed on 3 different occasions, one was one of the most "vocal" hisses I've ever heard from a BP.
    So I decided to just leave him alone the first time and take his hint. I just moved on and grabbed a different snake.
    The second and third time (just a few minutes ago) I decided I'd just give him a quick pat and take home out. Both times he's been fine once out. He's showed no aggression or defensive behavior at all, but he's much more on the go while out than usual.

    Anyway, just thought I'd share since it seems relevant to this awesome thread (one of my favorite threads so far) and see if anyone else has any updates or new developments.
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    Re: Advanced species.

    By no means an advanced species, but my ball python has been on his only summer food strike ever since mid May. Also been very atypically active for him. Has never done this in the nearly 10yrs I’ve had him. Luckily hasn’t lost any weight so I’m not worried at all, just annoying really. Neither of the boas are big enough to take his turned down meals. Am I gonna have to get a bullsnake to to clean up after him?


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    Re: Advanced species.

    Quote Originally Posted by jmcrook View Post
    By no means an advanced species, but my ball python has been on his only summer food strike ever since mid May. Also been very atypically active for him. Has never done this in the nearly 10yrs I’ve had him. Luckily hasn’t lost any weight so I’m not worried at all, just annoying really. Neither of the boas are big enough to take his turned down meals. Am I gonna have to get a bullsnake to to clean up after him?


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    Re: Advanced species.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bogertophis View Post
    Bullsnakes are great...why would you even need to ask? I say GO for it!
    It’s quite tempting as I feel a need for a North American colubrid in my life again. Went to a buddy’s place last night and saw his Kankakee Bull Snake, MBK, and Eastern Black Kingsnake and felt inspired. I need to wait until I free up a smaller enclosure first. And might be adding a gtp sometime as well. Just don’t want to overwhelm myself and end up with “work/stress” in the herp room instead of “relaxation”. Been down that road once before and not eager to travel it again.

    Sorry to derail your thread a bit Gio!


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    Wallace is going to shed any day now. He's been mellow during this period.

    I've decided to step up the game with him. I just ordered the 5 foot version of this: https://www.aestoney.com/product/poly-gaboona-hook/

    I'll likely order some kevlar/leather gloves for those "special times" we may share together in the future. And he'll get a huge, plastic Rubbermaid bin to hang out in when I do my cleaning.

    I think in hindsight I should have already had these items even though my current hook is high quality.

    It was really the first eye opening experience with any of my snakes here. I've been bitten before and haven't thought much about it.

    This non-bite experience however would not have been forgettable had he actually gotten a hold of me.


    Time to re-evaluate and put new procedures in place.

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    Wise is the owner who recognizes a foreshock when the ground only rumbles a bit... may all your "special times" have happier outcomes.
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    Re: Advanced species.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gio View Post
    Wallace is going to shed any day now. He's been mellow during this period.

    I've decided to step up the game with him. I just ordered the 5 foot version of this: https://www.aestoney.com/product/poly-gaboona-hook/

    Thanks for the link I have added that to my bookmarks. I am going to need one when my boa and blood get bigger.

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    Re: Advanced species.

    Quote Originally Posted by sur3fir3 View Post
    Thanks for the link I have added that to my bookmarks. I am going to need one when my boa and blood get bigger.
    Talk about service.

    I had standard shipping and it arrived a day later!

    A 3-4 foot model would be fine for most boas.

    This is a fiver!

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    Re: Advanced species.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gio View Post
    Wallace is going to shed any day now. He's been mellow during this period.

    I've decided to step up the game with him. I just ordered the 5 foot version of this: https://www.aestoney.com/product/poly-gaboona-hook/

    I'll likely order some kevlar/leather gloves for those "special times" we may share together in the future. And he'll get a huge, plastic Rubbermaid bin to hang out in when I do my cleaning.

    I think in hindsight I should have already had these items even though my current hook is high quality.

    It was really the first eye opening experience with any of my snakes here. I've been bitten before and haven't thought much about it.

    This non-bite experience however would not have been forgettable had he actually gotten a hold of me.


    Time to re-evaluate and put new procedures in place.
    I think I'll be needing one of these soon too bro. I like to live a little dangerously so I'll get a 3-4 footer . I'll get the kevlar gloves too. It's a shame that we have to armor up to deal with some of these critters. It's still worth it though.

    Quote Originally Posted by jmcrook View Post
    By no means an advanced species, but my ball python has been on his only summer food strike ever since mid May. Also been very atypically active for him. Has never done this in the nearly 10yrs I’ve had him. Luckily hasn’t lost any weight so I’m not worried at all, just annoying really. Neither of the boas are big enough to take his turned down meals. Am I gonna have to get a bullsnake to to clean up after him?


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    Get the bull JMC! They're not an advanced species but a hissy 8ft bullsnake is still a handful. My girl is normally a sweetheart but she's had a couple of bad days recently. Also, what do you think of Olive Pythons? They're large snakes too and usually without nearly the 'tude of a tic.



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    Re: Advanced species.

    Quote Originally Posted by EL-Ziggy View Post
    I think I'll be needing one of these soon too bro. I like to live a little dangerously so I'll get a 3-4 footer . I'll get the kevlar gloves too. It's a shame that we have to armor up to deal with some of these critters. It's still worth it though.



    Get the bull JMC! They're not an advanced species but a hissy 8ft bullsnake is still a handful. My girl is normally a sweetheart but she's had a couple of bad days recently. Also, what do you think of Olive Pythons? They're large snakes too and usually without nearly the 'tude of a tic.



    I like the idea of an olive, but I think I’m gonna cap the collection at two “large” constrictors for some time as I don’t necessarily want another 6’+ cage to deal with. No immediate plans to make additions here aside from, hopefully, a GTP from my buddy’s first clutch of them back in my home state that just hatched at the beginning of July.

    Eventually once I move the boas into a split T25 or their respective adult enclosures I’ll have a T8 freed up which would house a bull/pine/gopher snake nicely...



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