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    Re: Advanced species.

    Quote Originally Posted by Craiga 01453 View Post
    Very well could be. I know that I can often "feel" storms coming. Apparently it has to do with a rise in atmospheric pressure. It makes all my damaged joints and broken bones sore and achy. So I would think that the pressure may have a similar effect on them?
    You know, I always wondered how anyone could "feel a storm coming" but talking to a physical therapist a few days ago, he said that our joints have a small amount of
    air in them, so when the air pressure changes it causes pain when that air expands & contracts. I'd never heard that before but it does make sense. And animals like our
    snakes aren't distracted by social media & all the rest of our complex lives, so we shouldn't be surprised if they notice air pressure way more than we do, & instinctively
    connect it with good times to hunt or when to lay low. Interesting...
    Many friends in low places...

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    Re: Advanced species.

    There may be something to the heat wave theory. I saw a breeder on FB talking about how a few of his snakes have been amped up and snappy lately. My female bull has been pretty hissy the last few days too. I had already turned her heat mat down but she's still acting way out of character. She's the only one out of my 11 snakes though. All the others have been fine.
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    Re: Advanced species.

    My Male ivory blood is acting the same way, he made a mess in his bin and I tried to clean it out and I can't even get the lid off without him go ballistic. Im going to try to feed him in the morning and while he is coiled up on the rat im going to try and clean his cage.

    let's get the ball rollin'

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    Re: Advanced species.

    Quote Originally Posted by EL-Ziggy View Post
    There may be something to the heat wave theory. I saw a breeder on FB talking about how a few of his snakes have been amped up and snappy lately. My female bull has been pretty hissy the last few days too. I had already turned her heat mat down but she's still acting way out of character. She's the only one out of my 11 snakes though. All the others have been fine.
    Even in a controlled environment with AC, I'm convinced snakes can tell the difference. In the winter, believe it of not, our basement tends to be warmer because we are running the furnace. The summer tends to be a split of AC or open windows depending on the heat and humidity outside.

    My other snakes have increased their activity levels a bit and my boa did participate with his own lunging act, however it was nothing like Wallace's overzealous behavior.

    I do adjust cage temps and daylight hours based on the season. Sometimes the season doubles down though.

    I'm finding this thread very interesting because many of you have stated your animals have behaved differently as well.

    A large part of the nation recently dealt with a heat wave, and the tropical storm season has already visited.

    I'm still not ready to go hands on yet with Wallace. I'll give him 3 days from his last meal before I make a move.

    He's at least back to being able to figure out the tap training again. I open the cage 3-4 times a day to tap him back into reality in an attempt to establish a pattern he can get used to following again
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    LOL my high white CA king came after my fingers with a vengeance today and actually grabbed hold of the paper towel I was using to spot clean. So, I got an empty paper towel roll, rubbed some lemon-scent hand sanitizer on one end, and let him get a good whiff of it. He backed off - eventually.

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    Re: Advanced species.

    Quote Originally Posted by bcr229 View Post
    LOL my high white CA king came after my fingers with a vengeance today and actually grabbed hold of the paper towel I was using to spot clean. So, I got an empty paper towel roll, rubbed some lemon-scent hand sanitizer on one end, and let him get a good whiff of it. He backed off - eventually.
    That's awesome and funny at the same time.

    Oddly enough, I just went down for another tap session with Wallace, he's still semi keyed up but now the boa is totally geared up and ready to strike at the glass and he just ate yesterday. The royal is even out of her hide and its only 2 in the afternoon here.

    The joys of hot summer days!

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    Re: Advanced species.

    I think there's something to the heat wave theory as well. From what I understand, the current heat wave is a product of a heat dome (where high-pressure atmospheric conditions keep hot air trapped against the land's surface) and a slower, more northerly jet stream (which normally results in hotter, drier summers for a greater portion of the US). Many species of animals - including reptiles, as some of you mentioned - are sensitive to changes in barometric pressure. While I'm not sure of the precise mechanics at work here, it definitely sounds like some peoples' reptiles are responding to the heat dome. They could also be responding to a build-up of more "interesting" scents outside that gradually make their way into peoples' houses. It sounds like more tropical species are getting riled up here, so maybe there's something about the scent of hot, still air that they really like.

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    Re: Advanced species.

    Never one to wait.

    I tend to push the issue. I went to the cage door, Wallace struck at air and obviously failed.

    I tapped him with the hook, grabbed his mid body and took him out. He was not super comfortable however he was not at all defensive.

    It was probably a 30 second interaction yet it built up some trust and confidence for both of us.

    As an inexperienced retic owner (3 years) I think I've come to the realization that Wallace is always going to be demanding compared to the others and not a relaxing animal.

    I have major issues with placing any pet that I have committed to and have never given up on anything. Wallace is no exception.

    The only long term issue is if he gets to a size I simply can't handle on my own. Then he would benefit from being re-homed.

    According to Garret Hartle, some of the SD percentage that I was giving by Vital Exotics was a bit off.

    Garrett seems to think Wallace is only 25% SD vs the 37.5% that I was told he was.


    He's still not huge and I'm not worried since he's already 3 years 2 months old.

    Things are cooling down a bit here too so maybe in a day or two all we be back to normal.

    I'm ecstatic about getting him out without issues tonight!
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    Re: Advanced species.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gio View Post
    ...As an inexperienced retic owner (3 years) I think I've come to the realization that Wallace is always going to be demanding compared to the others and not a relaxing animal.
    I have major issues with placing any pet that I have committed to and have never given up on anything. Wallace is no exception.

    The only long term issue is if he gets to a size I simply can't handle on my own. Then he would benefit from being re-homed.

    According to Garret Hartle, some of the SD percentage that I was giving by Vital Exotics was a bit off.

    Garrett seems to think Wallace is only 25% SD vs the 37.5% that I was told he was....

    I hope it doesn't come to that (re-homing) but I'm glad you're also a "realist"...even for "big strong guys" there IS such a thing as too much snake to handle solo, &
    anyone putting safety first is being intelligent about this. I HOPE for your sake (& his) that he doesn't get bigger than you've planned. Also very glad this "re-match"
    went well, but I don't think you'll ever be able to let down your guard with "this much snake".
    Many friends in low places...

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    Rum does work

    Years ago, I had a 15 foot retic buckle the glass out of the channel on a custom built enclosure. The local pet store had been out of rabbits and she was quite active awaiting the next shipment. My daughter's cat was too much of a tempation and she pushed out the glass. I awoke at 4:30 AM to a screaming cat and the glass, which had just jumped out of the channel, appearing to be intact yet the retic appearing to be on the outside of the cage. Took a few seconds to process all of this. The retic had already grabbed the cat. By the time I ran to the next room and returned with a bottle of rum, the cat was completely coiled and no longer visible. Just poured the rum over the ball of python. She released the cat. I tossed the retic back into the cage and watched the cat stagger drunkenly out of the room. Had a vet checkup later that morning and the cat was OK...but she never went back into that room.
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