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    Does this look like a clouded-leopard to you?

    I am looking to buy this ball which I was told is a clouded-leopard (leopard Pastel lesser spider pinstripe). Just wanted some other opinions, not a lot of pictures on the internet to go by. I'm not sure if I am seeing the Pastel in it.
    Any opinions would be greatly appreciated.


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    Re: Does this look like a clouded-leopard to you?

    Quote Originally Posted by Daveb82 View Post
    I was told is a clouded-leopard
    'Clouded' is a good term for it. When you mix a lot of overlapping morphs together visual ID becomes unreliable-you will need to proof breed the snake (even multiple times) to sort them out.

    Also: I would not buy a snake from a breeder that showed a picture of him holding it with dirty hands/fingernails (as pictured)...while not necessarily true: it would suggest poor husbandry practices...
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    I noticed his hands too. I would definitely inspect the snake thoroughly.

    Since it looks like it's too hard to confirm what he is for sure, are there any genes anyone is "pretty" sure are in him?

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    Re: Does this look like a clouded-leopard to you?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Sorril View Post
    'Clouded' is a good term for it. When you mix a lot of overlapping morphs together visual ID becomes unreliable-you will need to proof breed the snake (even multiple times) to sort them out.

    Also: I would not buy a snake from a breeder that showed a picture of him holding it with dirty hands/fingernails (as pictured)...while not necessarily true: it would suggest poor husbandry practices...
    it's not necessarily true and i don't judge peeps like that. this person might be a farmer or works on cars or something. over time, there just won't be enough orange hand cleaner for those who put in a hard day's work w/ their hands.

    Quote Originally Posted by Daveb82 View Post
    I noticed his hands too. I would definitely inspect the snake thoroughly.

    Since it looks like it's too hard to confirm what he is for sure, are there any genes anyone is "pretty" sure are in him?
    i see Lesser, Pastel and Spider. there's something else that obliterates the pattern - that's gotta be the Leo or Pin, prob both. seems what pattern was there faded in maturity and it gained yellows. i think that's a really kool snake and a genetic powerhouse.
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    Re: Does this look like a clouded-leopard to you?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ax01 View Post
    it's not necessarily true and i don't judge peeps like that. this person might be a farmer or works on cars or something. over time, there just won't be enough orange hand cleaner for those who put in a hard day's work w/ their hands.
    Agreed, my husband is a welder and you'd be surprised how dirty he gets from 1 day of work lol
    I usually always keep my hands clean, it bothers me when they are dirty lol xD

    Beautiful bp btw

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    Bps:
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    0.1 Firefly BP (Chandra)
    0.1 Pastel GHI
    0.1 Pied 50% het Ghost
    0.1 Leopard Mojave
    0.1 Orange Dream Fire Yellowbelly
    0.1 Sugar Spider
    0.1 Desert Ghost
    0.1 Lesser 66% het Orange Ghost
    1.0 Fire Bee (Garruk)
    1.0 Leopard BP (Ajani)
    1.0 Butter Pastel BP (Diesel)
    1.0 Banana Pastel Enchi
    1.0 Lemon Pastel Enchi

    Non BPs:
    1.0 Sunfire Retic (Helios)R.I.P.
    1.0 Albino Burmese Python (Slayer)
    0.1 Normal het Granite Burmese Python (Pandora)
    0.2 Calico Cats (Mana and Elizabeth)
    0.1 Dog (pitbull lab mix) (Nova)

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    Thank you for your opinions. I went to look at this boy today. He was in good condition, very friendly, and healthy.

    The picture does him no justice, he is a very gorgeous boy. Can't wait to breed him and prove out all his genetics.

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