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    Eeden troubles (my rescue pueblan)

    So Eeden has stopped eating again. I have no idea what is going on. He is in a 20L. 2 hides, plenty of things to climb and lots of plants. Temps sit between 78-85 depending on where he is in the enclosure. He is wanting out again. Just roaming. He ate a big meal 3 weeks ago and. Now refuses to eat but roams like he is hungry. I'm worried. He is 11 years old.
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    That's not much of a temperature range, & I'd lower it. Try for 70* at one end & about 82* on the other. How long is he now? (wondering if a 20L has enough
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    I'd drop the temps down too. I'd personally shoot for loser to 72 & 82ish, but Bogertophis has much more colubrid experience than I do, so I'll defer to Boger on this one.

    And yeah, please remind me of his size?

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    When I got him he was 31" same length of the tank. Now he can stretch the front and wrap almost to the back. So maybe 41-42"
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    Re: Eeden troubles (my rescue pueblan)

    Quote Originally Posted by Sunnieskys View Post
    When I got him he was 31" same length of the tank. Now he can stretch the front and wrap almost to the back. So maybe 41-42"
    I'm thinking that a 20L (30" long tank) is not enough room for him to get away from the warm end of cage, & I think he's over-heated. I don't think 2* will matter much-
    as far as the low end being 70* or 72*- mainly his cage temps. need to come down & that he may not have had enough room in a 20L to thermo-regulate as he should.
    It sure seems like he's been trying to tell you something is amiss. Also, is this heated by UTH? What size is it?
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    I wouldn't be worried just yet. He's middle-aged, his metabolism isn't as fast as when he was a growing youngster, and he had a huge meal recently.

    My adult milk/king snakes all are on a 10-14 day feeding schedule over the warmer months, and a few won't eat while in shed so they'll miss a meal periodically. Plus over the winter while I don't brumate them, they sense the season change and back themselves off to feeding every 3-4 weeks. I would give him another week and offer a smaller feeder, just to see if he's interested.

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    Re: Eeden troubles (my rescue pueblan)

    Quote Originally Posted by bcr229 View Post
    I wouldn't be worried just yet. He's middle-aged, his metabolism isn't as fast as when he was a growing youngster, and he had a huge meal recently.

    My adult milk/king snakes all are on a 10-14 day feeding schedule over the warmer months, and a few won't eat while in shed so they'll miss a meal periodically. Plus over the winter while I don't brumate them, they sense the season change and back themselves off to feeding every 3-4 weeks. I would give him another week and offer a smaller feeder, just to see if he's interested.
    Yes, I agree with this too ^ ^ ^ and maybe that recent big meal is sending him into a shed, who knows? Don't panic.
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    Re: Eeden troubles (my rescue pueblan)

    Don't have any wisdom on the matter but would like to see a photo or 2?

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    Re: Eeden troubles (my rescue pueblan)

    Quote Originally Posted by Bogertophis View Post
    I'm thinking that a 20L (30" long tank) is not enough room for him to get away from the warm end of cage, & I think he's over-heated. I don't think 2* will matter much-
    as far as the low end being 70* or 72*- mainly his cage temps. need to come down & that he may not have had enough room in a 20L to thermo-regulate as he should.
    It sure seems like he's been trying to tell you something is amiss. Also, is this heated by UTH? What size is it?
    Uth is small. Little bigger than his hide. Red heat lamp on the hot side. And a thermostat regulates the uth
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    Re: Eeden troubles (my rescue pueblan)

    Quote Originally Posted by bcr229 View Post
    I wouldn't be worried just yet. He's middle-aged, his metabolism isn't as fast as when he was a growing youngster, and he had a huge meal recently.

    My adult milk/king snakes all are on a 10-14 day feeding schedule over the warmer months, and a few won't eat while in shed so they'll miss a meal periodically. Plus over the winter while I don't brumate them, they sense the season change and back themselves off to feeding every 3-4 weeks. I would give him another week and offer a smaller feeder, just to see if he's interested.
    His previous two owners only fed him 1 fuzzy his entire life. He was small, the size of a bubble tea straw and 30" long. I have him up on hoppers because he refuses to eat an small adult mouse.
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