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    Very very weird regurg situation...

    So I have encountered what seems to be a rather strange regurgitation.

    I feed my ghi cinny female bp on 5/13 she ate well. She had been on a very long winter fast so I’ve been feeding her every 2 weeks and conservatively sizes items smaller than what she had been eating prior to the fast. On Saturday it was a very nice day here and I was taking some of my animals outside for the very first time to see them in natural light. I went to go take Leslie out and she was really washed out and almost this white Grey light color which was so very odd as she’s a very dark snake. She shed about 2 weeks ago so I was confused but she was acting fine so I thought maybe she was just changing color or dulling out.

    Fast forward to last night. I go down to check on the snakes and turn the lights out and I see her standing tall mouth opened flailing around and I had no idea what was going on. I then see this little white mush coming out of her. Pics below.

    I let her relax all day and tonihjt I checked on her and her colors are fully back to normal and she seems fine.

    Any idea what the heck this is. There was zero foul smell to the regurg. She took a rather large poop and pee all over the side of the cage as well.

    Really confused. Especially by the crazy transformation of color she went through. Was she just not feeling
    Well or trying to get that out and the color was a sign of that.

    I’m going to hold off on feeding her for a bit and let her level back out but I really want to prevent this in the future.

    I checked my params and they are all where they always are. She has her gradient with a nice 90 hot spot. 60% humidity.

    Here she is all washed out







    Here is the regurg





    Here she is tonight back to fill color.








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    Re: Very very weird regurg situation...

    This may be an obvious question, but did you see which end the regurg came out of? I ask because I once saw one of my BP's acting exactly as you described - flailing around, opening her mouth, looking generally very distressed - and it ended up being before a huge poop. I haven't looked up photos of regurg, so I'm not sure whether that actually is or if it's just undigested fur that was passed through the bowels.

    Glad she's seeming to be better now, though!
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    Looks like she hacked up a hairball. Technically snakes cannot cough, but her strange gyrations apparently got the job done...I'm impressed, actually.
    Weird about her color change though...

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    I'm wondering if the color change was mostly because of the snake being in the sun and having "older" skin that is due to shed soon. I noticed that on our darker colored BP yesterday. When she was in the sun she was lighter like that, especially her head scales. Inside she looks pretty normal, if not a bit darker because her skin is probably getting old. Except under a bright light you can still totally see her "old" lighter skin at certain angles. I have seen this before on her too, shortly before she enters shed mode.
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    Re: Very very weird regurg situation...

    Quote Originally Posted by WhompingWillow View Post
    This may be an obvious question, but did you see which end the regurg came out of? I ask because I once saw one of my BP's acting exactly as you described - flailing around, opening her mouth, looking generally very distressed - and it ended up being before a huge poop. I haven't looked up photos of regurg, so I'm not sure whether that actually is or if it's just undigested fur that was passed through the bowels.

    Glad she's seeming to be better now, though!
    It was def from her mouth. Sorry I thought regurgitate always meant back from the mouth or I would have clarified better.


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    Re: Very very weird regurg situation...

    Quote Originally Posted by FollowTheSun View Post
    I'm wondering if the color change was mostly because of the snake being in the sun and having "older" skin that is due to shed soon. I noticed that on our darker colored BP yesterday. When she was in the sun she was lighter like that, especially her head scales. Inside she looks pretty normal, if not a bit darker because her skin is probably getting old. Except under a bright light you can still totally see her "old" lighter skin at certain angles. I have seen this before on her too, shortly before she enters shed mode.
    Thanks for the input. However. I noticed the colors as soon as I removed her and it was right away and obvious. I then took her outside for maybe a few min and right back in.

    She also just shed about two weeks ago so she’s not due for a shed and this isn’t a Orr shed dull out or Grey out that’s why I’m so confused.


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    Yeah that's strange
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    Re: Very very weird regurg situation...

    This may sound odd but have you triple checked the temps to make sure there isn't an equipment failure?

    10 days is a long time after eating to be seeing something like that.


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    Re: Very very weird regurg situation...

    Quote Originally Posted by dr del View Post
    This may sound odd but have you triple checked the temps to make sure there isn't an equipment failure?

    10 days is a long time after eating to be seeing something like that.


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    Thanks. Sorry just seeing this. I’ve checked and triple checked and even lowered things just to be on the safe side. All checked out with no problems.


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    Re: Very very weird regurg situation...

    Quote Originally Posted by WhompingWillow View Post
    This may be an obvious question, but did you see which end the regurg came out of? I ask because I once saw one of my BP's acting exactly as you described - flailing around, opening her mouth, looking generally very distressed - and it ended up being before a huge poop.
    Mine has done the same. He'd gone nearly 3 months without a stool or a shed, then I heard this crazy wet slap and weird grunting noises. Mashadar was standing up tall, mouth open and gagging, tail raised and what I can only describe as farting...about 5 min of straining and he passed a lot of stool - 30 grams to be exact -. He went back to normal after, other than a tiny bit of blood at the edge of his vent.

    No real solutions for the color change, just keep an eye on her. Hopfully she was just a little backed up
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