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    Re: Buyer’s remorse: advice is appreciated.

    Quote Originally Posted by WhompingWillow View Post
    OP, is the breeder photo you posted the only one that was provided to you? It looks very artfully shot to me, like the breeder was likely trying to hide the extent of the kinking.

    Also, just to cover bases, are we sure the snake hasn't experienced high temps or chemicals to explain the additional abnormal body movement? I realize it is more likely explained by the kinking.
    Yes, this was the only photo the breeder supplied. I should have asked for more, and I should have inspected her better.
    So, the experienced breeder I talked to asked the same questions about chemical exposure. The harshest thing I’ve used for cleaning is vinegar. I don’t own any prevent-a-mite. I’ve also had her for two weeks, so it wouldn’t be IBD. He had his own theory about fetal calcium deficiency causing brain damage.

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    Re: Buyer’s remorse: advice is appreciated.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ax01 View Post
    also look for these splotches

    is that the same pink one? is the red one still there? the twisting is obscuring stuff.
    https://imgur.com/gallery/091oVeu

    Maybe? Probably the same snake.
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    I also think waiting 2 weeks+ to complain was too long on your part...so yeah, you both messed up in this deal, whether or not it's the same snake- they will
    have a good point, that anything could have happened while at your house too. I'm NOT saying it did, but from a resolution standpoint, it muddies the water.

    BTW, what is meant by "duckbill" in BPs? Since that was mentioned somewhere...?

    It's always a challenge when you're buying something you're really excited about, whether it's a snake, a house or a sports car, you have to keep a cool head,
    remain skeptical & really inspect what you're signing up for...BEFORE you sign the papers or take it home, & IF you go ahead, never wait so long to complain.

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    Re: Buyer’s remorse: advice is appreciated.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bogertophis View Post
    I also think waiting 2 weeks+ to complain was too long on your part...so yeah, you both messed up in this deal, whether or not it's the same snake- they will
    have a good point, that anything could have happened while at your house too. I'm NOT saying it did, but from a resolution standpoint, it muddies the water.
    I wanted to do what was best practice for the animal. Many people will say to bring the anima home, house it, and let it settle in for a week. No handling. No feeding. Only open the cage for cleaning and water changes. So, in this case, a one week policy would be bunk. I tried my best to stick to this plan.

    Also, I had been in contact with the breeder during this time. I attempted a feed 5 days after getting her, on Saturday and informed him it didn’t go well. He says his feeding practice is to “literally toss in the prey, close the bin, and leave it,” which I think is bad practice. I never leave prey unsupervised unless it’s dead. I’ve been in contact about my temps and husbandry as well.

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    Well since you were in contact with him, you should also have brought up the "what ifs...?" since you said that nothing was clearly spelled out policy-wise.
    (hindsight is 20:20, of course)
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    Best news. The breeder decided to refund my money and take her back. I wanted to give him a chance before leaping to a smear campaign.

    Thanks everyone for your input and support. It is greatly appreciated.

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    Re: Buyer’s remorse: advice is appreciated.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pokersnake View Post
    Best news. The breeder decided to refund my money and take her back. I wanted to give him a chance before leaping to a smear campaign.

    Thanks everyone for your input and support. It is greatly appreciated.
    That's good to hear. Really hope you take what you've learned from this experience and apply it to your experience. That's what mistakes are for!

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    Glad to hear it...best for everyone involved.

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    Re: Buyer’s remorse: advice is appreciated.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pokersnake View Post
    Quarantine is a thing.
    Study a bit about reptile diseases even beyond IBD. There are certain diseases that may not show up for years. Some snakes can live normal lives with them and others die. You will not know if your snake has these diseases without spending a lot of money, most of the time way more than the animal is worth. If you have a couple animals, a 6 month quarantine has acceptable risk. If you are a breeder that stands to loose a lot of animals and you do not want to risk spreading something even unknowingly, no amount of quarantine is going to tell you what you need to know. Only lab work will.

    I am glad that you got your situation resolved.
    Honest, I only need one more ...

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    Re: Buyer’s remorse: advice is appreciated.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pokersnake View Post
    https://imgur.com/gallery/091oVeu

    Maybe? Probably the same snake.
    i still cant tell. it's got it's head and neck and kink still blocking the area.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pokersnake View Post
    Best news. The breeder decided to refund my money and take her back. I wanted to give him a chance before leaping to a smear campaign.

    Thanks everyone for your input and support. It is greatly appreciated.
    that's great!

    BTW did the breeder say anything about what he was gonna do w/ this BP?
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