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    Moldy rotten egg.

    Update, the very moldy egg and the little bit of moldy egg attached to it are still moldy.
    All the other eggs are fine so far.
    So it looks as Deb said.

    The mold is at the top, and not the bottom where it sits in vermiculite. I believe it was condensation dripping from the plastic wrap.

    I removed the wrap on the 4 clutches and just put back the snap close lid, as the Saran wrap can sag if not careful!

    2 out of 27 is acceptable, I suppose.
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    Re: Moldy rotten egg.

    Quote Originally Posted by Godzilla78 View Post
    Update, the very moldy egg and the little bit of moldy egg attached to it are still moldy.
    All the other eggs are fine so far.
    So it looks as Deb said.

    The mold is at the top, and not the bottom where it sits in vermiculite. I believe it was condensation dripping from the plastic wrap.

    I removed the wrap on the 4 clutches and just put back the snap close lid, as the Saran wrap can sag if not careful!

    2 out of 27 is acceptable, I suppose.
    In my humble experience with snake eggs, it's too moist if condensation is dripping from the plastic wrap...although I also had several pin-holes in the plastic wrap.
    Did you do that (make pin holes in plastic) as well? or not? While I agree that you never want drips of water onto eggs (they can drown), it's by no means the only
    reason that eggs get moldy...some just aren't viable & they go bad, with or without water drips. When I had condensation like that, I opened it up for a bit (I lived
    in the desert then, it was easy to get rid of "humidity") and then recovered them after some time (maybe a day?)...that helped, & the eggs later hatched.

    All the best with your eggs...

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    Re: Moldy rotten egg.

    Quote Originally Posted by Godzilla78 View Post
    Update, the very moldy egg and the little bit of moldy egg attached to it are still moldy.
    All the other eggs are fine so far.
    So it looks as Deb said.

    The mold is at the top, and not the bottom where it sits in vermiculite. I believe it was condensation dripping from the plastic wrap.

    I removed the wrap on the 4 clutches and just put back the snap close lid, as the Saran wrap can sag if not careful!

    2 out of 27 is acceptable, I suppose.
    Good to hear.
    I originally used press & seal for my first clutch and found the same thing, it makes for too much condensation and unwanted dripping. I have since just used the closed tub, no holes, and found the humidity still stays near 100% but without so much condensation.
    If you only lose two out of the 27, I'd say your having a very successful first year breeding

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    I agree, losing 2 or 3 out of 27 is pretty normal, not something to beat yourself up over.

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    Re: Moldy rotten egg.

    Well bad news. The whole clutch went bad. It was obviously more than just mold, it was some sort of bacteria or fungus as well that spread among the attached eggs.

    The other clutches of eggs are totally fine. It is a bit frustrating and disappointing, as I am still not sure why this happened to this particular clutch and not the others. I will definitely really extremely cautious when I am setting up incubation tubs from now on, and make sure to keep everything sterile.

    The bad clutch was firefly pied x het pied ... 8 eggs.

    3 other clutches are doing perfectly fine. Good luck breeders!

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    Re: Moldy rotten egg.

    Quote Originally Posted by Godzilla78 View Post
    Well bad news. The whole clutch went bad. It was obviously more than just mold, it was some sort of bacteria or fungus as well that spread among the attached eggs.

    The other clutches of eggs are totally fine. It is a bit frustrating and disappointing, as I am still not sure why this happened to this particular clutch and not the others. I will definitely really extremely cautious when I am setting up incubation tubs from now on, and make sure to keep everything sterile.

    The bad clutch was firefly pied x het pied ... 8 eggs.

    3 other clutches are doing perfectly fine. Good luck breeders!
    That's terrible news, I feel for you man Would of been a really nice clutch too. Not that it will make you feel any better, but I think it's more common than people talk about here to lose a clutch, sometimes things just go wrong and it's out of your hands. I doubt there was anything you could of done to save them. It's possible it could of just been a bad clutch too, and it would of happened no matter what. I have a friend that has quite a few clutches every year and last year it just seemed like he had really bad luck, lost a few clutches with no apparent reason. They all looked good when laying but for whatever reason they went bad. He had others setup exactly the same and in the incubator at the same time that hatched perfectly but for who knows what reason, some of them just went bad.

    Don't let it get you down. Focus on the remaining clutches your lucky enough to have and I'm sure you'll still end up hatching some awesome babies. You're far ahead of me so far, I have been lucky enough not to have any serious problems the last couple years of breeding but this year I can't even get a clutch laid lol. Good luck with the rest of your clutches, I can't wait to see what you hatch out.

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    At first I was really frustrated and upset. Made me think of all the struggles of having a large reptile collection. The difficulty keeping them in perfect conditions, always watching their health and husbandry parameters. The frustration of having over half your ball python collection not eat, lol. Its enough o drive one mad!

    I've determined to only buckle down and work harder than ever on keeping my ball pythons healthy, just learn, and move on.

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    did u happen to take any photos?

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    Re: Moldy rotten egg.

    Quote Originally Posted by sur3fir3 View Post
    did u happen to take any photos?
    No, I should have, but didn't think about it. It did look like fungus or bacteria spreading among the snake eggs

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    So sorry for your loss...some clutches just aren't meant to be, not necessarily anything you did or didn't do. But I get the frustration... ....
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