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    Bit confused..

    So My corn is ALWAYS on the cold side of her Viv, it's extremely rare that I find her on the warm side tbh. Her warm side is 29 degrees C (heat mat). She's always so cold when I get her out. I was just wondering if instinct would kick in if she really did get too cold? Or if she just doesn't understand that she has a warm side lol

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    That is pretty common. My king stays on the cool side most of the time. She will hang out on the warm side after a meal and for a day or two. They know what to do and where to go. Just make sure your temps are fine.

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    As long as your temps are dialed in properly there's nothing to worry about. Double check your temps.

    Snakes know how to thermoregulate on their own. They wouldn't have survived thousands of years otherwise.

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    Re: Bit confused..

    I agree with Cheesenugget and Craig. As long as your temps are dialed in the snake will thermoregulate itself. I'll only add that they've existed for close to 100 million years, and maybe more, so they must be doing something right.
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    29* C is about 84* F....and while that's a good temperature for the warm area of a corn snake's enclosure, what is the cool side being kept at?

    My corn snakes all seem to prefer around 70-73* & they use the UTH area on & off when digesting their meals, but not constantly.

    When you say "warm side", that suggests that you might (?) be heating too much of her cage. How much of her cage is heated? (what proportion?)
    Corn snakes require (& prefer) far less heat than BPs, & while it's normal to talk about warm & cool 'sides' of the cage for a BP, I'm concerned that you may
    be over-doing the warmth for your corn snake, & that's why she is clinging to the coolest area she can get.

    If your ambient ROOM temperature is 70* (or low 70's*), as mine is most of the year, the heat area provided for your corn snake should not be larger than roughly
    a sixth of the cage. (it can even be less!) Even a fourth is too much, & you may be over-heating her, unintentionally of course.

    So again, what is the cool "side" temperature? and how MUCH of her cage is at which temperatures? Also, what size & kind of cage is she in? The smaller
    the enclosure, the easier it is to over-heat your snake. I've kept corn snakes for many years (& bred some too)...I prefer & recommend glass tanks with
    plenty of air-flow thru screen tops. My adults are in 40 gal. 'breeder' tanks with controlled UTH under one corner. When my house gets warmer in summer
    (up to 80* before A/C kicks on) I turn their UTH's OFF until room temps. again go back down.

    Keep in mind that we are 98.6* roughly, so yes, your corn snake will ALWAYS feel cold to you...if she ever feels warm she'll be overheated & probably dying.
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    Re: Bit confused..

    Quote Originally Posted by Bogertophis View Post
    29* C is about 84* F....and while that's a good temperature for the warm area of a corn snake's enclosure, what is the cool side being kept at?

    My corn snakes all seem to prefer around 70-73* & they use the UTH area on & off when digesting their meals, but not constantly.

    When you say "warm side", that suggests that you might (?) be heating too much of her cage. How much of her cage is heated? (what proportion?)
    Corn snakes require (& prefer) far less heat than BPs, & while it's normal to talk about warm & cool 'sides' of the cage for a BP, I'm concerned that you may
    be over-doing the warmth for your corn snake, & that's why she is clinging to the coolest area she can get.

    If your ambient ROOM temperature is 70* (or low 70's*), as mine is most of the year, the heat area provided for your corn snake should not be larger than roughly
    a sixth of the cage. (it can even be less!) Even a fourth is too much, & you may be over-heating her, unintentionally of course.

    So again, what is the cool "side" temperature? and how MUCH of her cage is at which temperatures? Also, what size & kind of cage is she in? The smaller
    the enclosure, the easier it is to over-heat your snake. I've kept corn snakes for many years (& bred some too)...I prefer & recommend glass tanks with
    plenty of air-flow thru screen tops. My adults are in 40 gal. 'breeder' tanks with controlled UTH under one corner. When my house gets warmer in summer
    (up to 80* before A/C kicks on) I turn their UTH's OFF until room temps. again go back down.

    Keep in mind that we are 98.6* roughly, so yes, your corn snake will ALWAYS feel cold to you...if she ever feels warm she'll be overheated & probably dying.
    Her cool side is around 70 degrees F, her heat mat covers about 1/4, maybe 1/3 of her 3ft x 1ft x 1ft (She's only 1 year old) wooden viv

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    I agree with other posters, my corns (and king) prefer cooler temps in the mid to high 70s.
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    You truly don't want your corn snake to be 98.6* F or over our body temperature (about 37* C), which is what it would take for them to feel
    "warm" to you, and keep that in mind when you handle a corn snake too: their restlessness may be a sign they are getting too hot & want
    (need) to move away from you- it's "nothing personal"
    . This is especially true the smaller a corn snake is...hatchlings over-heat faster than a large adult.

    With a heat mat (UTH) that covers a third or fourth of her viv, I'd lower the temperature of the heat mat to 26-27* C (about 80*). A wood viv
    is going to retain more warmth than a glass tank will...you might see her using her heat mat more if it's a bit lower.
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    Re: Bit confused..

    Quote Originally Posted by Bogertophis View Post
    You truly don't want your corn snake to be 98.6* F or over our body temperature (about 37* C), which is what it would take for them to feel
    "warm" to you, and keep that in mind when you handle a corn snake too: their restlessness may be a sign they are getting too hot & want
    (need) to move away from you- it's "nothing personal"
    . This is especially true the smaller a corn snake is...hatchlings over-heat faster than a large adult.
    Okay, that's fair enough haha

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