PETA Calls For An Investigation

[Danger noodles]

I don’t know a single person that doesn’t know the old saying. Red against black well who cares leave it alone and it won’t bite u!!

[reptilemom25]

Anyone with any respect for wildlife can manage to move a snake into a tall plastic trash-can with a snake hook, & take it far enough away to be sure of not seeing it again.

Remember that they were working in the snake's home, it wasn't invading theirs. Standard practice & common sense dictated they were obliged to have an experienced
person on site for any wildlife encounters...it's attitudes like theirs (& yours) that will push our wildlife to extinction.

I wouldn't have attempted to move a potentially deadly snake. Like it or not, it's the practical reality of life in a rural area. Sometimes its necessary to kill a snake for your own safety or the safety of someone else. These snakes aren't going extinct any time soon. They are thriving. We will just have to disagree on this.

[reptilemom25]

No it's like saying if you were trying to get pregnant, you should have a obgyn because it's the responsible thing to do. In their profession they know they might encounter venomous snakes because of where they're filming. It's the same as if you were planning to conceive a baby, it would be irresponsible not to have an ob Dr because you know what could happen. It's not apples to oranges here. It's the reality of being an adult and a responsible and respectful human being.

No, it isn't reasonable to expect that they would need a snake handler where they were filming. Have you ever been there? I have and I know the area. This wasn't at all a likely occurrence. It isn't crawling with snakes, far from it. They really should have been fine. This was a chance encounter that no one would have reasonably foreseen. Sorry to burst your bubble.

[reptilemom25]

I don’t know a single person that doesn’t know the old saying. Red against black well who cares leave it alone and it won’t bite u!!

In the reptile community or thse who live in the area sure, but an LA film crew who have probably never even been in the woods? not likely

[Toad37]

No bubbles bursted here. My morals are perfectly intact inside their bubble.


[QUOTE=reptilemom25;2686599 I am not going to argue.[/QUOTE]

What happened here tho?

[Timelugia]

I was going to say, its my understanding that coral snakes are not highly aggressive. Bites from coral snake are rare and often require someone to step on them barefoot or attempt to handle them bare handed. Since 1967 there appear to be two cases of death from coral snake bites- one of which the man didn't seek treatment. (http://thevenominterviews.com/2016/0...-coral-snakes/)


So killing a snake because you can't ID it... let's face it attacking the animal is putting the people at a much larger risk then leaving it alone. Its a bad tradition built on fear, not one built on logic. We have that out here with people and rattlesnakes. Everyone seems to think killing a rattlesnake is a public service to protect others.
All they end up doing is breaking the law and putting themselves at risk for a painful snake bite.

[reptilemom25]

I was going to say, its my understanding that coral snakes are not highly aggressive. Bites from coral snake are rare and often require someone to step on them barefoot or attempt to handle them bare handed. Since 1967 there appear to be two cases of death from coral snake bites- one of which the man didn't seek treatment. (http://thevenominterviews.com/2016/0...-coral-snakes/)


So killing a snake because you can't ID it... let's face it attacking the animal is putting the people at a much larger risk then leaving it alone. Its a bad tradition built on fear, not one built on logic. We have that out here with people and rattlesnakes. Everyone seems to think killing a rattlesnake is a public service to protect others.
All they end up doing is breaking the law and putting themselves at risk for a painful snake bite.

I have had some experience encountering coral snakes that runs contrary to this, a fair amount actually. One actually chased me once.

I can see your point about endangering oneself, but when you are dealing with an aggressive snake that is unlikely to back down and slither off, which has been my experience with corals in the area, it’s a different situation.

Look, it’s ok if you don’t agree with me, all I am saying is that I have actual experience in the area and I can see how it would be warranted based on what I know. It isn’t popular, but its my experience.


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[Shayne]

Humans really do suck sometimes.

I say that ALL the time. It's sad, but true.

[Bogertophis]

I don’t know a single person that doesn’t know the old saying. Red against black well who cares leave it alone and it won’t bite u!!

The exact saying words vary a bit, but the idea is: red touching yellow can kill a fellow, red touching black is a friend to Jack...

The trouble is that if you follow that rule, you're likely to be killing a harmless shovelnose or Western (or Texas) longnose snake, since coral snakes are adept at hiding,
and even IF you find one, they are so small as to have a hard time getting a hold of you for envenomation to occur. Coral snakes are in the elapid family & have serious
venom, but their fixed front fangs are weak & small, & non-retractable. You'd mostly need to try hard (pick up, or step on with bare feet) to get bit. Unlike a rattlesnake,
their fangs cannot swing forward to envenomate a flat surface (like your leg) even with their mouth open wide- they must get their mouth around their prey to be effective.
According to livescience.com, it's hard enough for them to get their teeth into human skin, much less leather boots. Some of them would rather hide their head & produce
microfarts to scare off predators...boy, that takes a real macho person to kill one, doesn't it? How pathetic...

https://www.livescience.com/43938-co...rts-facts.html

Could everyone just learn to walk away & stop killing our wildlife please??? If you're that freaking afraid, you belong living in a freaking city.

[Bogertophis]

I have had some experience encountering coral snakes that runs contrary to this, a fair amount actually. One actually chased me once.

I can see your point about endangering oneself, but when you are dealing with an aggressive snake that is unlikely to back down and slither off, which has been my experience with corals in the area, it’s a different situation.

Look, it’s ok if you don’t agree with me, all I am saying is that I have actual experience in the area and I can see how it would be warranted based on what I know. It isn’t popular, but its my experience.


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It's not so much that I don't agree with you...I don't even believe you. If it chased you, it wasn't a coral snake. Few snakes act aggressively. I've seen a coachwhip
come towards me (& have heard the same from others) but few snakes like to tangle with humans at all...at least in this country. BTW, coachwhips are harmless, &
that one was being mobbed by birds until I chased off the birds...so he was in a panic when I got there & didn't realize I was helping him. I did not get bit...I walked
away.