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    Bloated snake

    Hi, new to the forum here, question isn't specifically about breeding, but is related to it.

    I noticed about 3 days ago my bp (female, age 24, about 4'2", 3200g) was bloated about 1 foot up from the tail.
    She has been off feed since november which happens every year, so she shouldn't have had much food in her system, and she had a large defecation in january, so I was pretty sure it wasn't constipation.

    I thought she was a male, but after seeing the vet and doing ultrasound and xray, he said it was the follicles causing it.
    So obviously he is now a she, I have to wait a week and contact them again if she is still bloated.

    I'm curious how it works, how normal is this? Cause I've never noticed it before.
    So if no mating occurs, what happens with the follicles? Do they turn into unfertilized eggs and get laid, or maybe get absorbed?

    I also observed about 2-3 weeks ago she was drinking a lot of water, more than usual anyway.
    Also, she looks slightly better today, viewed from above you wouldn't really notice any problem with her.
    The vet said to try feeding her again, which I will do today.

    Thanks for any advice, cause I don't know anything about the breeding / reproductive side of it all.

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    Re: Bloated snake

    It is a rarity but could be a case of parthenogenesis. Has she ever been housed with another BP?
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    Re: Bloated snake

    24 years old is impressive.

    Follicles will either be fertilized or reabsorbed at a certain point...anything else is in the 'oddity' category (<1%)
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    Re: Bloated snake

    Quote Originally Posted by PghBall View Post
    It is a rarity but could be a case of parthenogenesis. Has she ever been housed with another BP?
    No, never. I've seen a video on youtube of a BP laying eggs from parthenogensis.
    That would be amazing if it happened, but I think we could realistically rule it out.

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    Re: Bloated snake

    Quote Originally Posted by colin-java View Post
    No, never. I've seen a video on youtube of a BP laying eggs from parthenogensis.
    That would be amazing if it happened, but I think we could realistically rule it out.
    Yes I doubt that's the case as well. Just mentioned it as it has happened on extremely rare occasions.

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    Keep us posted, you never know. I had an older desert rosy boa many years back that was never with a male snake & had one live (sadly defective) neonate
    the first summer after she came to live with me. She'd produced slugs in the past, when she was kept by a local nature museum. She'd been very stressed
    there -kept in a 2' x 2' cage with 2 other female rosies & had rarely eaten for the last couple years...that's why they gave her to me. I offered suggestions
    for improvements to their snake/reptile techniques (they weren't kept warm enough & regurged their meals so often that the staff thought that was "normal"!).
    They knew she'd be in better hands with me, & she went on to reproduce extremely well in subsequent years, while the 2 poor snakes they kept died about a
    year later from a nasty infection. Anyway, the female rosy boa that came home with me was past "middle age" for her species, just as your BP is at age 24...
    so never think it can't happen.
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    1 foot up the tail sound like mid section so you have a few options considering she has not fed since november.

    Building up or even ovy

    Health issue

    Do you have a picture? Side, front and back, holding her head up and tail down?

    Where does she spend most of her time in her enclosure?
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    Re: Bloated snake

    Thanks, she doesn't eat this time every year though, so I don't expect her to eat, but it normally starts soon as the weather gets warmer.

    She spends all day in the hide box mostly, and comes out to drink as well.

    Some pictures here...
    Its not as bad as it was though, seems to be less bloated now...

    https://imgur.com/a/iUdUYU9

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    Re: Bloated snake

    Yeah, same here.

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    Re: Bloated snake

    Quote Originally Posted by colin-java View Post
    Thanks, she doesn't eat this time every year though, so I don't expect her to eat, but it normally starts soon as the weather gets warmer.

    She spends all day in the hide box mostly, and comes out to drink as well.

    Some pictures here...
    Its not as bad as it was though, seems to be less bloated now...

    https://imgur.com/a/iUdUYU9
    To me it looks like this female is building up.
    Last edited by Stewart_Reptiles; 03-16-2019 at 01:10 PM.
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