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    Re: YOUNG bp owners, I need your help.

    MR Snakes r u being cheeky?
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    And sometimes it is advisable that thread posters at least take 5 minutes to find the multitude of like threads before posting another one.
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    Re: YOUNG bp owners, I need your help.

    Quote Originally Posted by MR Snakes View Post
    And sometimes it is advisable that thread posters at least take 5 minutes to find the multitude of like threads before posting another one.
    (apologies for the brief derail, OP)

    This is one of, if not THE, most active reptile forums out there. It's heavily supported with new threads daily, tons of member content, old timers and newbies, and yes - many of our new threads are repeat subjects. But if you are tired of seeing the same questions raised, then don't contribute to that thread.

    One of the beautiful features that sets us apart from the many repulsive Facebook pages is that we are a SUPPORTIVE community here because we love our animals and want to help and encourage each other. We don't answer every thread with snark and sarcasm. We don't chase off new and inexperienced members. Even criticism is constructive, not demeaning.

    OP is an admittedly "young" bp owner who needs help. If you don't want to help, then don't answer on this thread and stop being so aggressive.
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    Re: YOUNG bp owners, I need your help.

    Quote Originally Posted by redshepherd View Post
    Mr Snakes, I'm wondering why you so often reply to question threads that is often unhelpful and you haven't even owned a single snake yet... haha
    Yes

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    Re: YOUNG bp owners, I need your help.

    Quote Originally Posted by MR Snakes View Post
    And sometimes it is advisable that thread posters at least take 5 minutes to find the multitude of like threads before posting another one.
    It would be more helpful to post links than to give wrong or bad advice. Peace.

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    Re: YOUNG bp owners, I need your help.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jellybeans View Post
    MR Snakes r u being cheeky?

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    Both cheeky and truthful.

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    Re: YOUNG bp owners, I need your help.

    Quote Originally Posted by hilabeans View Post
    (apologies for the brief derail, OP)

    This is one of, if not THE, most active reptile forums out there. It's heavily supported with new threads daily, tons of member content, old timers and newbies, and yes - many of our new threads are repeat subjects. But if you are tired of seeing the same questions raised, then don't contribute to that thread.

    One of the beautiful features that sets us apart from the many repulsive Facebook pages is that we are a SUPPORTIVE community here because we love our animals and want to help and encourage each other. We don't answer every thread with snark and sarcasm. We don't chase off new and inexperienced members. Even criticism is constructive, not demeaning.

    OP is an admittedly "young" bp owner who needs help. If you don't want to help, then don't answer on this thread and stop being so aggressive.

    Well stated. Thanks

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    Re: YOUNG bp owners, I need your help.

    Quote Originally Posted by BpShelly View Post
    I made an earlier post, got great advice. tried them and my bp still wont eat. she has shed with me, but not eaten. last time she ate was 3-4 weeks ago ( not with me/ before i received her) she dropped one gram from 97. enclosure, temps, humidity, correct mice size, everything is on point.... the only one out of formation is my snake. shes very sweet and gentle. she completed her shed last night. tried to offer her food today, she refused. she shows NO INTEREST in eating. if she could live off air and water..... she would.

    for those wondering, from observations she likes her home, she knows the locations of her hides, and water. she also likes being handled.



    for those with YOUNG bps , have you experienced this?


    how long do i wait to reOffer her food? 2 days? week?


    whats the longest your bp went without food? (young snakes only)
    the way she refuses food makes me question if she even knows she a carnivore, and or I am being a human and over reacting.
    thank you in advance!
    To get back on topic, here is my $0.02. (Largely agree with other replies here) I'm not familiar with the other post, so I may be missing info.

    Only 1g weight loss is a positive sign. That is relatively small, so not super concerning overall. Also means she isn't suffering illness/disease causing her to refuse food as those typically cause larger weight loss.

    Might help us to go ahead and post your enclosure, temps, etc. Since this is a new thread, it will give the needed info for anyone not seeing the other thread first.

    Since this is a pretty clearly shy baby (sweet and gentle at this size pretty much means very shy, possibly too shy to show defensive behaviors), you may have one of the cases where it is needed to go smaller on the enclosure or the temps may be slightly off somehow. Can't know that unless you post them, though.

    Some snakes don't show interest in food the day after a shed in general, so that could contribute. She might be resting from the effort of shedding and not want the food just yet.

    In general, you should be doing 0 handling outside moving the snake if needed to do cleaning and putting back straight after. This snake has not eaten for you, therefore needs more time to settle in and get eating before you handle.

    BPs are mostly easy-going, even when actually stressed, so it may appear she likes handling, but... that's not how snakes work. Other replies explain this already.

    You say you offered mice, is that what she had been fed before? Did the previous owner offer live, pre-killed- or frozen, and is that the same as what you tried?
    Getting the snake to eat is more important than swapping to frozen or pre-kill for the first few meals, especially when they're small like this. (Also, offering at night, in dim lighting, and keeping yourself still or out of sight also help shy eaters)

    Offer once a week, no more often. Too much will add stress and refusals. And definitely do not handle for the week following a refusal and double check the temps/humidity.

    My similar experience with refusals:
    One of my last hatchling BPs I bought was 60g and fed live mice with the breeder. She did not eat for me for about 3 weeks (1 week before meal 1 and 2 weeks between feeds 1-2 and 2-3).

    My first offer was a f/t mouse since the local store I have to get live from was out of any mice or rats of a size she could handle (if no mice, I planned to try a live rat as live was more likely to work in either species than frozen, but mice would have been best by far).
    The 2nd was a live mouse that she refused to take. She balled up and hid from it in her hide. All 3 weeks without food were spent in QT in a 16qt tub with the coolest temp at 76-78 and hot spot of 88-90, 2 identical hides and water with a 12 hour on/off lamp nearby for day and night light cycle.

    Some just need time to settle in. Mine was handled once after refusal #2 to get a weight to make sure she hadn't lost too much (first weight from day of purchase before placing into her tub initially), she hadn't lost much weight, and otherwise not at all. She did not pee or poop in this time and needed no cleaning. She's still my most infrequent pee/poop BP, but has gone several times and has tripled in size since then.




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    Re: YOUNG bp owners, I need your help.

    Every ball python is just a little bit different from another
    Some start off eating right off the bat while some take a little bit longer to adjust.
    And I truly believe that snakes do pretty much just tolerate us handling them BUT, some of them go a little bit further than tolerating it . I think they enjoy it somewhat as they get to see and smell new things.

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    Re: YOUNG bp owners, I need your help.

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    Yes
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