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    Not excusing the neglect of any snakes, but they survive in the wild despite all sorts of adverse conditions (weather, food & water shortage, predators, wildfires,
    environmental pollution, roads/loss of habitat, roaming pets, etc). But there's a big difference between "survive" and "thrive"...I don't think you can truly say that
    a neglected pet snake is "thriving" if it has had sub-standard care, even if the long-term effects aren't immediately obvious. It's a bit like humans who smoke...the
    serious effects might not show up for a while, depending on their own genetic resistance. Or "stress" of any kind...a no-brainer, but a challenge to prove.

    For anyone with the resources to take in (rescue) a neglected snake (or other animal), few things make you feel better than turning it's life around for the best.

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    Re: How common is BP neglect? Do they still thrive?

    Animal neglect is an epidemc, no matter what species

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    Re: How common is BP neglect? Do they still thrive?

    I think it happens more than you think. I think they are acquired on impulse because they are so popular
    Often by younger people who's interests change from month to month and they end up being neglected. My kids are perfect examples. They both go through periods where they really want a snake and I go through the motions of giving them good info and helping them make good decisions and within a week the idea is forgotten and I breathe a sigh of relief that I wont be getting a new snake. Lol

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    Re: How common is BP neglect? Do they still thrive?

    It sadly happens, I was lucky enough to rescue my BP from a home, one hide, dog bowl water dish, same aspen substrate for maybe years, 1 hide, no thermometers or hygrometers, no foliage and the single hide on the hot side. Fed ~5 times a year, or when he remembered, luckily he wanted to part with her and I had the money to outfit her with a much more stable, healthy, and safe home. I think people get dispassionate, BP's are not always roaming or exciting, they hide so much, people often probably are often disappointed and bored.

    I was lucky enough after a horrible partial shed to get her acclimated and 7 months later she is thriving, eats like a champion, sheds almost perfectly, she does not have her skin wrinkled from losing weight, heck I even catch her drinking water and she is significantly more sociable now that she has a more habitable environment.
    Semper Fidelis Tyrannosaurus - "Always faithful terrible lizard."

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    Re: How common is BP neglect? Do they still thrive?

    You can see her 1 hide, old substrate, empty tank here, feces in the aspen, urates everywhere, shed skin stuck on hide, stuck everywhere. Glass was filthy, water dish slimey and grimey.

    Dude loved his cat, but he lost passion for the BP and she suffered, it is probably far far too common, and as others have said for many pets, not just snakes.

    Pets are a responsibility and it is up to the owner to provide a safe and healthy home, we remove them from their natural habitat and owe them the very best, be it vet visits, their home, environment, feeding, etc...

    This is where her and I bonded (or she was curious what warm thing pointing at her was).

    Second picture is her set up now, second hide in the foliage, blanket in back is to cover and give her less stimulation since it is a glass tank, she is of course tucked away in her hide just giving me a cute smile. Coy little gal.

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    Re: How common is BP neglect? Do they still thrive?

    So glad u saved her life

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    Re: How common is BP neglect? Do they still thrive?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jellybeans View Post
    So glad u saved her life

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    Well thank you! I was just looking at a large (wide) bookshelf I have and contemplating a new vivarium for my BP and setting up a second one on top of my large bookshelf. To be fair, y'all are enablers..... I went from 1 snake ought to do to I could get a hognose too and set it up right.

    I live in a rather small town, but my herp love has started to name me the "snake guy" in town haha. Though my instagram is only my snake haha, so that does not help!

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    Re: How common is BP neglect? Do they still thrive?

    Hognose would be SWEET

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    Re: How common is BP neglect? Do they still thrive?

    I own 3 boas, 2 hondos and one corn snake. Each has a custom AP cage with RHP and thermostat. I love my pets and take their care very seriously.

    I check their cages for cleanliness every morning and every evening. Any messes get cleaned up immediately. Water bowls get fresh water every day. spaghum moss gets remoistened when needed and replaced when needed.

    My babies are truly spoiled but that is exactly the way I want them to be and what the deserve
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    How common is BP neglect? Do they still thrive?

    Look up afroherper on YouTube he picked up a extremely neglected bp one of worst things I have ever seen, stuck shed sores bites mouth rot underweight ri.

    Can they thrive when neglected I would say no, but they can survive.


    https://youtu.be/h1xpb24N4G4

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