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Thread: Parthenogenisis

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    Parthenogenisis

    I gave a colleague at work a Corn Snake that I hatched out 8 years ago. Now, he has had her from a hatchling, she has never seen another Corn Snake, let alone paired or locked with one. Last weekend she decided to lay 21 eggs. 2 of them were white, the others definite slugs. I ditched the slugs and candled the 2 white ones. The one shows some red dots inside and the other a thin red streak, possibly a vein. I have had them in the incubator for a week and will candle them again tomorrow night. I post a pick of the clutch, and will post a result of the candling tomorrow night if anything looks promising.

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    1.0 Coral Glow Pastel
    1.0 Ginger Enchi
    1.0 Spectre
    1.0 BlackPastel Yellowbelly
    1.0 Albino
    1.0 Fire
    1.0 Enchi Mojave
    1.0 Enchi
    1.0 Calico
    1.0 Leopard
    0.1 Mojave Spider
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    0.2 Fire
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    Good luck but don't get your hopes up. I have 2 adult female Florida rat snakes (yellow x gulf hammock & maybe some Everglades?) that have never mated
    either, and every year each one produces double clutches of slugs AND what look like some good eggs, (over 2 dozen each) but the ones that appear viable
    always go bad eventually. These poor girls try so hard to populate the planet with their kids, and I have adult mates* in the other room too, I'm SO "mean"...
    *Actually their brothers, & even if they weren't, I don't need to be mass-producing them...yikes! they are SO FERTILE! And they're about 11 years old now
    too...I hope they slow down, or better yet, just knock it off! The males are twice the size of the females, they spend so much just making those eggs!

    I have had true parthenogenesis take place many years back with an older rosy boa given to me by a nature museum where she'd been housed with 2 other
    females for most of her life thus far (about 15 years). Long story... but with apparently no mate ever, she had a live baby for me. Sad though, it had
    defects (one eye, crooked neck) & only lived 8 mos.- so rather than chance her doing that again next year (since her health was vastly improved under my care),
    I decided to put her with a healthy male, & for 5 years she tried to fill the world with rosy boas. She had 49 neonates total, all healthy & feisty & not inbred,
    before I finally convinced her to retire. She passed away at roughly age 26 after being with me for her last 11 years...she was a cool ol' mama for sure!
    I truly never wanted to breed rosy boas, & especially not an older female, but one year when she didn't breed, she nearly died: see the live babies pretty much
    push their own way out, but with slugs and an old snake that had poor muscle tone (she'd been chronically under-fed in the museum, refusing food due to stress
    and inadequate heat in their cages) she was so weak after pushing out slugs that I thought she might die. I tube-fed her for a few weeks & she recovered...she
    really amazed me. So that's why I let her breed for 5 years, until I sensed she really would quit...& she did, finally. She was "retired" for another 5 years after
    that.

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    Re: Parthenogenisis

    The eggs were smelling, I threw them away.

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    Re: Parthenogenisis

    Quote Originally Posted by Reptilius View Post
    The eggs were smelling, I threw them away.

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    Last year, I saved (in refrigerator) my rat snake eggs that appeared good (& didn't smell), since I had an upcoming snake "meet n' greet" scheduled in a couple
    months. The eggs made it to the informal sharing...didn't spoil...and people had no idea they weren't fresh, but of course I told them they weren't fertile, it's just
    that people "connect" to snakes better by seeing more than just the snake..."show & tell" . Sheds are enjoyed too.

    You never know though, as I understand it, parthenogenesis is more "common" among egg-layers than among live-bearing snakes? Better luck next time.

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    Re: Parthenogenisis

    To close this saga, not fertile and not smelling good, disposed of them.

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    Ball Pythons
    1.0 Pinstripe
    1.0 Coral Glow Pastel
    1.0 Ginger Enchi
    1.0 Spectre
    1.0 BlackPastel Yellowbelly
    1.0 Albino
    1.0 Fire
    1.0 Enchi Mojave
    1.0 Enchi
    1.0 Calico
    1.0 Leopard
    0.1 Mojave Spider
    0.1 Butter
    0.2 Fire
    0.1 Yellow Belly
    0.2 Pastel
    0.3 Normal
    0.1 Bumblebee
    0.1 Mystic
    0.1 Enchi
    0.1 Pinstripe 66% het Pied
    0.1 Leopard

    Other Pythons
    1.0 Carpet Pythons

    BOAS
    1.1 Dumerils
    2.2 Red Tail


    Corns
    1.2 Amel

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