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    Re: RIP Freya & Ghost

    Quote Originally Posted by Bogertophis View Post
    Your high side sounds too hot also...but I'm not convinced this was your fault, at least not for both. Housing them together was a bad idea, you know that now?

    I think a necropsy would have been very advisable, and especially without having taken that precaution, I wouldn't get another snake for "at least 6 mos. -in case".
    You don't know what killed them...an RI can be a symptom, but not the whole picture, & obviously if your vet thought they were that sick (about to pass) they'd
    have done more themselves. I would personally not set myself up for another heartbreak loss if this is something nasty & contagious that remains in your household. Unfortunately, housing them together made for a double loss. Do disinfect everything to the max, then do it a few more times, before adding any, & wait!

    I'm so sorry for your loss. Rest in peace, Freya & Ghost.
    Future snakes will 100% NOT be housed together. I do blame myself to an extent, just because we were trying to do the best we could and we really did research and took our time prior to getting the snakes, and I was very quick to get Freya to the vet as soon as we saw the RI symptoms, but I know now that our husbandry was not good enough. It wasn't the worst ever, but it wasn't good enough. I'm really thankful for this community, especially in the St. Louis area, because I've been able to make connections with veterinarians, experienced breeders/owners, and folks with masters degrees in entomology/zoology/biology who have been incredibly helpful.

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    Given your timeline and the seller's husbandry I would not be at all surprised if the snakes were sick when you purchased them.

    I would avoid that store in the future, goodness knows what other diseases they've got cooking in there.

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    Where did you purchase the snakes?

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    Re: RIP Freya & Ghost

    Quote Originally Posted by MR Snakes View Post
    Where did you purchase the snakes?
    Tye-Dyed Iguana in Fairview Heights, IL. They're a small, local exotics store.

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    Re: RIP Freya & Ghost

    Quote Originally Posted by mandymg86 View Post
    Tye-Dyed Iguana in Fairview Heights, IL. They're a small, local exotics store.
    Thanks. Sounds like they're not the best when it comes to husbandry if they had 20 BP's in one tank. That should've been a big red flag.

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    I'd also go back to the store and ask the manager if they've had any complaints/issues with any of the others in the tank? And see if the tank and any leftovers are still there? I'd bet there aren't any.

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    Re: RIP Freya & Ghost

    Quote Originally Posted by MR Snakes View Post
    Thanks. Sounds like they're not the best when it comes to husbandry if they had 20 BP's in one tank. That should've been a big red flag.
    We're sticking with individual breeders from now on. My new girl came from a veterinarian who breeds about an hour from my hometown and came high recommended. Getting to see part of his collection and his proper racking system was a huge relief.

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    Re: RIP Freya & Ghost

    Quote Originally Posted by bcr229 View Post
    Given your timeline and the seller's husbandry I would not be at all surprised if the snakes were sick when you purchased them.

    I would avoid that store in the future, goodness knows what other diseases they've got cooking in there.
    Yes, that's what I was getting at as well. While your husbandry wasn't perfect, I think they were not healthy when you got them. Painful lesson, wishing you
    MUCH better luck in the future.

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    Re: RIP Freya & Ghost

    Have u heard of the nidovirus? In a nutshell its an incurable RI. U can Google to get more information but that's kinda what this sounds like. Sorry for your loss.

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