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    Re: Dozier the super reduced pattern reticulated Gila progress thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Sauzo View Post
    Nope. He did his once when I brought him home. Otherwise the little dude is so curious. Since his time on the bed, he has been windshield wiping the same door lol. I think he wants more enrichment. I do still wear a single glove that I use to guide him and move him though as accidents can happen.

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    Love him. How bad are the bites? Don't know much about them.

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    Re: Dozier the super reduced pattern reticulated Gila progress thread

    Picked up some new Mopani wood for Dozer. I think he likes it.

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    Re: Dozier the super reduced pattern reticulated Gila progress thread

    Dozer after a good meal and a hard night's digging and destroying his house.

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    Re: Dozier the super reduced pattern reticulated Gila progress thread

    Arenít those highly venomous....? Did you need to obtain a permit or anything? How do you handle him, thick gloves or do you like to live dangerously? lol


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    Re: Dozier the super reduced pattern reticulated Gila progress thread

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    Arenít those highly venomous....? Did you need to obtain a permit or anything? How do you handle him, thick gloves or do you like to live dangerously? lol


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    Read the entire thread. I posted a video of coyote Peterson getting bitten by one

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    Re: Dozier the super reduced pattern reticulated Gila progress thread

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    Aren’t those highly venomous....? Did you need to obtain a permit or anything? How do you handle him, thick gloves or do you like to live dangerously? lol


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    Venomous, yes. Highly venomous, no. There has been no recorded deaths from one since i believe 1920s or 1930s and i think that was from a child. While their venom i hear hurts like no ones business and might make you wish you died, a healthy adult should be ok. Still need to go to the hospital though or at least i would. Also should have a bite protocol folder that you can take with you to the hospital as a lot of doctors arent familiar with their bites or venom. You can pick one up from the Florida Snakebite Institute from Joe Pittman. He also has others for all sorts of venomous reptiles.

    As for a permit, not where i live. They are legal but i did get paperwork with them stating they are CBB and who bred them and when they were born as they are protected in the wild and collecting or keeping a wild one is a federal offense.

    As for handling, right now i use a single leather glove as they are youngsters only about 3 months old and can be unpredictable even though they are laid back. Once they get bigger, I might start freehandling but who knows.

    Oh also, the breeder i got Dozer from, Steve Angeli, has taken bites from them and even one from an adult beaded lizard on his side. He says it hurts but he was at the gym working out the same day. What he told me was a lot of people overreact and the key is to get them off you asap as their delivery system is poor and they only get it in you by chewing on you. He also told me gila venom seems to hurt more than beaded venom even though beaded grow to around 3 feet where as gilas grow to about 1.5 feet.

    And i do find Coyote's videos entertaining but the thing i dont understand is he doesnt sweat much when in THAT much pain. Maybe its just me but the one time i had to deal with a gall stone, I was doubled over and in so much pain, i actually cried which i never do. During that i was sweating so much, it looked like i was fresh out of a shower. The doctor at the hospital was amazed i drove myself there and that it took 2 full vials of pain killer before i could un fetal myself and talk to the him and the nurses.
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    Re: Dozier the super reduced pattern reticulated Gila progress thread

    Lol just caught Dozer in a crazy sleep pose. I have seen pics of guys with their gilas sleeping on their back like dog. Also heard they can sleep with their eyes open like that and look dead.

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    Re: Dozier the super reduced pattern reticulated Gila progress thread

    Very cool critter Sauzo!
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    Re: Dozier the super reduced pattern reticulated Gila progress thread

    Thatís so cool,think he needs a pillow


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    Re: Dozier the super reduced pattern reticulated Gila progress thread

    Quote Originally Posted by EL-Ziggy View Post
    Very cool critter Sauzo!
    Thanks. They are pretty cool except they sleep as much as BPs.....or more lol. Basically, i catch them at night wandering over to the cool side to poop, then sit in the water dish for a minute, then back over to a log to dig under and sleep. I just lift a log and wiggle a F/T fuzzy at them every 3 days and they go bonkers and eat, then back to sleep.

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    Thatís so cool,think he needs a pillow


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    Lol, he does. I'm waiting to catch him sleeping on his back with his little arms crossed across his chest. The other one isnt comfortable enough to sleep on its side yet i dont think. Dozer is so carefree and curious and wants to see whats going on where Tank is kind of the grumpy one.
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