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    Re: New PA Woods Vivarium (Gray Tree Frogs)

    What makes a Forest a Forest and a Woods a Woods?

    So this week I have some wonderful news. Ace appears to maybe be healthy once again. She grew and looks incredible. I am excited to show you her whenever I get another opportunity. Not only does she look better then before but so does Bane. They both are doing wonderful. The next visit is on Tuesday so they will be dewormed the final time!

    Bane and Christian are still competing for the top spot to be the dominant tree frog. Bane appears to have size and a deeper call so he in my opinion appears to be winning. I learned something very special about these tree frogs. Females who are colder prefer a slower call that sounds like the male tree frog is cold. A warmer female will prefer the call of a warmer male with a more lively call. So whoever wins that doesn't make them a ladies man. Gray Tree Frog females have their preference too! If I'm able to get a third male they will have to have this battle eventually all over again. I learned the Gray Tree Frogs are possible just as intelligent as the American Toad. They are around the same level which I can see from owning them but it's cool to know this as well.

    I believe I will have the vet bill paid down enough around late March maybe early April to take both Christian and Pious to the vet next. This will mean once they are done they will be able to reunite. Christian with Bane and Pious with Ace respectively.

    There isn't too much more to report on for these guys but while reading and in my class simultaneously and coincidentally the discussion was what makes a Forest a Forest and a Woods a Woods? So I had a lot more understanding after this week. I also researched what animals live where. It is usually easier to build a Forest then a Woods. do you know what the difference is?

    This has a great meaning to the Gray Army and will have to be discussed in the update tomorrow!


    Are you excited to see the native amphibians again? It might be a little bit more time but I didn't want them to be in an upcoming update.

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    Re: New PA Woods Vivarium (Gray Tree Frogs)

    What makes a Forest a Forest and a Woods a Woods?

    So to my understanding there are many ways but some of the most important are the land mass. A larger area is considered a forest and a smaller area is a woods. But this isn't the only reason. Dense trees some areas where there are thin trees and others where they are taller are considered a forest. The more tree cover they are considered a forest. More biodiversity lives in the forest then the woods. This is because the woods is smaller with less cover and vegetation for some animals to eat. There are less animals, but the animals that live in the woods are specialists to the environment. This is very fascinating to me and I was very happy to know this beforehand but even more so now. This is important because the Gray Army live in a forest.

    Gray Tree Frogs thrive with dense trees and thin closer together brush in the forest. They can blend in with the trunks of the trees and they also can catch many insects this way. They can come to the ground or jump around from tree to tree reminding you of a monkey in the jungle. These frogs are actually very adaptive and thrive in many states. They are the second most widespread throughout the northeast. The Spring Peeper has the most land covered however the Gray Tree Frog has bigger size and can partially freeze for a short period of time. These frogs are very intelligent as well. I've never heard of intelligence levels for the Spring Peeper.

    This matters because I did not have any forest by me. I only have woods. So the Gray Tree Frogs if I would have introduced them to my area even though in some places there are some, but there is not enough land to sustain a larger number of Gray Tree Frogs.

    The Woods is dominated by the American Toad. Ace, Pious and Wellsboro all are adapted to live in the woods. They thrive around people and hunt in open areas. Almost no other amphibians would attempt this relying on coverage from high grass or dense trees. The toads can handle areas where it is bushy and dense but in my area they thrive in open areas and the edges of the woods.

    While great care articles have talked about keeping both the toads and gray tree frogs together this actually leaves someone inconvenienced. Both species can adapt and get over the change but it actually would be better for them too have their preferred hunting areas.

    Why does this matter?
    The PA Woods Vivariums was made for the American Toad and some Rana/Lithobates Species. What this means for the Gray Army is something very unique. My exotic animals are living in a forest setting. I have never attempted a PA Forest before and what this means is that the Gray Army and Mosquito Fish are heading into the first ever PA Forest. A Forest is actually easier and more popular to create. So the 125 gallon Woods is more open and has areas you can clearly see into the enclosure. The Forest is an enclosure that has dense plants and accessories close together. This would actually really benefit the Gray Tree Frogs so this is actually something that I've been looking forward to. So they will be exclusive as being the only native forest. How exciting is it that the Gray Army will feature a different ecosystem and biome then the Toads?

    Are you excited to see the faceoff between the Toads and Gray Tree Frogs late this summer and to see the first battle between a Woods and a Forest?

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    Re: New PA Woods Vivarium (Gray Tree Frogs)

    A very large and in depth update....

    All is good with the sick animals. The vet found nematodes were infesting the toads and tree frogs. Ace and Bane were dewormed with potent stuff that is supposed to kill all the nematodes inside them. They have another vet visit in a few weeks to see if they are clean.

    Next on the list is the other tree frog Christian and Pious the mate of Ace. They will be most likely dewormed with both dewormers the others were. So maybe around May to June the Toads and Tree Frogs will be done. I will be working on both enclosures by that time.

    There is one thing that's throwing a wrench in the Gray Army living in peace. We are not sure what Bane is actually. I have some calls from both tree frogs and Bane has a deeper call it's very noticeable. I will be releasing the calls for a special 100 subscribers special once I get to 100. We are going to be getting a sample of Bane and sending it to a lab to see what he is more accurately.

    The wrench is that if he's a Cope's Gray Tree Frog then I will have to aquire a female if I can rescue them from the place Bane and Christian are from. I would have to get the largest Biopod if that were the case which doesn't matter but if I don't have to I don't actually want to have too many tree frogs I've learned they are a little more aggressive then one would think. They can get along it's just I don't want to have as much competition if I don't have to.

    So this might make some people happy and maybe some mad but it makes sense. I am going to be dividing the PA Woods Vivariums enclosures into factions. The first faction is the feature of the channel recently, the Five Lined Dumpy Family. They will remain locked together it's a good match. The Wild West the Western PA Woods Vivarium will be solo because I will need the time to focus on the most incredible but difficult series coming. Seasons will require me to be very interactive with this enclosure and I will be hibernating and breeding the animals in this enclosure.

    Then there were 2. I know I said the Gray Army would be independent and they broke free from the Western PA Woods which is very impressive still. But they will share a common occurrence with Wellsboro the Golden Toad. Both will have a Biopod self sustaining habitat. I thought it would be better for presentation and easier on me to pair the two exotic Exo Terra Terrariums (Five Lined Dumpy Family) and pair two Biopod (Gray Army and Tioga PA Woods) because of the capability they share. It gets crazier.

    So I haven't heard from anyone who owns a Biopod but I saw it can raise the temperature up to 15-18F. If it can go up what if it comes down? In theory if at 72F in my room I could turn it down to 57 in the Biopod. This could be a cooling down period which I might be able to induce breeding. For both enclosures which would be incredible. Also these two enclosures will be in self sustainable conditions which will be very amusing for many to observe. To me two Terrariums with exotics and two Biopods with native Amphibians and Fish just make sense.

    So the three factions are broken apart. The question what makes a woods a woods and a forest a few comes in handy because I am going to build the Gray Army the first native forest and the toads and such a self sustainable woods. Based on their needs this will be very fun. So right now I'll wait to announce the names of the enclosures and series but now you know there are 2 tag teams in the PA Woods. This will setup for some very interesting holiday specials and other videos. Some holidays will have a tag team match pitting the Gray Army and Wellsboro the Golden Toad vs the Five Lined Dumpy Family. The Western PA Woods is on the outside of this but it's intended to be that way.

    So I will be rebuilding the Western PA Woods. Because of the soil parasites I will be getting all new plants which is okay because there weren't that many anyways and I know the exact plants. So it will look tremendously different next time you see it. It's next on the list. I will be introducing some crops to the enclosure which are grown from seed.

    We are close to being almost halfway through the great nematode scare. The PA Woods has been changed in many ways because of this. Once the dust settles it will have only made everything and everyone stronger.

    What do you think about having 3 factions? Are you excited to see two Biopod self sustaining ecosystems side by side?

    What should we do if Bane is a Cope's Gray Tree Frog? Should we try to include at least one female for him if he turns out to be a Cope's?

    Are you excited for a native species update for a 100 subscribers special on YouTube?

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    Re: New PA Woods Vivarium (Gray Tree Frogs)

    Some good changes on the way...

    So I have a lot more news regarding the native animals and my production for my videos in the videos ahead.

    We are 10 days away from hopefully the final vet visit for Ace and Bane. Both look beautiful and I see almost completely different animals how colorful and alert they are! I think they free of all parasites. I've never seen such healthy specimens of either species.

    As soon as they are done Pious and Christian are next. Pious is the one at the most risk now. He is sick I can see how he's different from Ace but the biggest threat to Pious is actually Wellsboro. Both are male toads and now that Wellsboro has been getting healthier he has begun dominating behavior towards Pious and it's not fair. Now this happens with amphibians more then people think they do not usually see it though so I can use this example as a lesson to help you understand some psychology of same species interaction between native species.

    Males when together push each other to the limit in order to become the top amphibian to breed. In a closed setting I've noticed grossly dominant behavior of toads toward their own species. They initiate psychological warfare on one another as attempting to stress and starve the other competitor in order to get the upper hand. I've seen it 3 times in 5 years with many toads. Females can do it too but I've seen it specifically in male American Toads. The type of warfare they attempt is actually brutal and something that is not noticed by many keepers. It's also a controversial topic but I believe I have science and my Herpetologist friend on my side with this claim.

    This also is initiated with specific toads that have this trait or personality. Wellsboro was a wild toad for I'm estimating around 8 years. He may be from 6-8 according to educated estimate age on my younger toads which is almost confirmed. Anyways, being in the wild 3 times longer then Pious and his personality of looking out for himself he is naturally going to out compete a toad that is passive. Pious was never a competitive toad. Ace did not ever compete with him which made their relationship very unusual but good that they accepted each other. Ace would stalk the food and Pious would ambush the prey. Some toads are runners which are fun to watch and some learn and ambush the prey. Wellsboro is a runner so he will take all the food but he will show aggressive behavior towards Pious if Pious takes prey in front of him. This results in lashing the tongue at another in an attempt to stress the other and to make them submit. Wellsboro did this to everyone. This is why he and Ace cannot live together because she's more peaceful but actually is faster and can out run Wellsboro for food, but he'd end up stressing her out.

    Wellsboro is untested because he doesn't have to compete with anything else so he's no doubt the leader right now. As time goes on and he lives in another setup I will see if he can have a mate or if he's too aggressive. I hope he can have a mate because he's so beautiful and strong so he'd produce some incredible offspring.

    Moving on

    I am not sure this year we will get a chance to have the battle between the Western PA Woods (125 gallon) and the Gray Army. We may have to postpone the meeting to 2020 because I don't think there will be enough time to get everyone treatment and healthy for the video. I'm content with waiting but I know it will be a bummer because the build up was starting. While I'm not sure how much of the 125 gallon you will see this year I can promise you that the Gray Army will become more prominent towards the end of the summer if not sooner.

    The Gray Army will be joined into a faction with Wellsboro the Golden Toad this year as they will not be hibernating. I am attempting to see more into the Biopod because I may be able to cool the tank down and warm it up to stir a breeding season. I believe this is still possible just haven't heard anyone tell me if the Biopod can keep it's self in the low 60's for temperature. I am planning on this and this means not only will my exotic animals be available and active over the winter, but the rising faction of the Gray Army and Golden Toad will be able to rival and compete with the exotics in an ongoing rivalry. I think this makes the channel better and it avoids many animals going into a hibernation which has it's risks. At least this way they get changing seasons but don't have to go through a deep sleep.

    I am unsure what enclosure the Gray Army will have depending on what species Bane is, but they will be ready to go within the year. Next winter Wellsboro will get his new home. It may be this time next year when his home is done or even started maybe. But the second faction of animals is coming.

    My laptop has been crashing and near the end of it's life. So I actually got a new one coming which I'll be able to upload in 1080 at 60fps what my camera can do. I actually was only able to upload in 720 not 60fps. You will be able to see the animals in even better quality coming soon!

    I am looking for another lens to zoom in more which will give another layer to the videos which I'll be looking into this summer.

    I'll have a lot more for tomorrow!

    Are you surprised reading about the competition between same sex specimens of the American Toad?

    Are you excited to see the Gray Army and Wellsboro in an upcoming faction? Do you think I should elaborate more on this in the next update like the name of the faction and other details?

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    Re: New PA Woods Vivarium (Gray Tree Frogs)

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    I have never seen someone so interested in frogs lol
    Thanks I think?

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    Re: New PA Woods Vivarium (Gray Tree Frogs)

    A small additional update...

    Last night I learned a lot more about a few native species as I was researching and found some of the most interesting information. What I found also was a game changer because it may have actually swayed my mind completely one way if it's possible regarding the inhabit of the 125 gallon. I won't give more details because if it works out it will be the biggest surprise of the year for sure!

    I'm hoping to get some more subscribers to get to 100 but it's taking a while. Probably after the first episode of Kingdoms hopefully. If I can get to 100 subscribers I have a native species update on all the gray tree frogs and toads. But I'm saving it for the 100 subscribers special.

    So it appears that there was interest on learning the name for the other faction. Two enclosures that are self sustaining and provide the animals with exactly the conditions they need. You would think of this as a paradise if you were a frog. It's very close to paradise. The animals that will make up the upcoming faction will be called the "Utopians" Utopia is a place that's made up and it's thought more of an ideal place that everyone desires to be. I felt the residents of the Biopods would fit that category. So the Utopians will rival the Five Lined Dumpy Family. Like how the Five Lined Dumpy Family has the upcoming series Kingdoms the Utopians will have the series "Utopia" which is pretty far away but will be the name of the project.

    I just wanted to reveal the information on the Utopians and that something monumental happened which will hopefully set up the greatest surprise of the year for you!

    Persuade your friends to subscribe to the channel to get me to 100 so I can release the native species update! There is something in this update that actually answers the Perspective video and connects to the Swarms Battles of 2018.



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    Re: New PA Woods Vivarium (Gray Tree Frogs)

    Things have been made clear(er)...

    This is a big update. You'll want to read to find out what the state of PA said on breeding the toads, the Biopod and more on Frog week. And 100 subscribers!

    So I'll start of by saying work has openings for me basically only me to fill if I want to work extra for 6 weeks. What this means is vet bills for all gray tree frogs and Ace and Pious get paid. This means the 125 gallon gets done sooner. This means AAron isn't going to have debt .

    So I'll start with the state. I reached out to the state and asked about breeding my toads and gave a full detail explanation on what I intend to do and so far the toads were accepted to breed and I may release their offspring into the private property they came from. Ace and Pious will be parents and have something that actually ties them together! The hope is a successful breeding season! The good news actually is that native species of the northeast (my area) benefit from a warmer hibernation meaning the temps don't get bone chilling cold. My refrigerator will be a nice 46F. They should do well with NO PARASITES. But yes the toads are legally allowed to be parent. I got the okay. I saved the email in case someone is gonna be that person and say "Show me the proof".

    I will ask about something else next and I will be messaging the family to try and save the tree frogs that are where Bane and Christian are from. I have good ideas how to do this!

    I heard back about the Biopod. You guys are gonna be disappointed and then happy. So the current model doesn't have a chilling ability. However to my surprise they are talking about making a new model with a chilling capability. This is exactly what I need! They said it may be the next upgrade and out by the end of 2019. So the Gray Army and Mosquito Fish may get their home sooner than later. What this does is it means they will have to live in the 30 gallon for a while. Until it comes out to be exact. Then AAron has to save or make money lol

    This means the Gray Army isn't going to be as featured as they would have with their forever home. But it means the 125 gallon will be ready and presented earlier to you.

    So I reached out to many places for Frog Week and my series coming for the 125 gallon"Seasons" and have received good feedback. Many places are excited for Frog Week but guys you will be very excited to see this series. There will be nothing like it on YouTube. I have been talking to a certain invert collector to get me some insects for my enclosure and he will have what I need so I can talk about adding insects to the display. I really really misses this. There's nothing like seeing crickets and Isopods running around and earthworms just below the soil and earwigs running around while they avoid the frogs and toads and live among them. I think it's one of the most important and enjoyable parts of owning this setup.

    So I hit 100 subscribers and that means you get to see the Gray Army and Toads. Christian has been moved to a smaller tank for quarantine and Pious will get the 30 gallon. I have Ace shedding and Wellsboro collides with a Hornworm again. The toads and Bane actually showed me that the hornworms in the Swarms Battle from 2018 were sick or had something because the animals gulped them down this time. Sadly I believe the Gray Army was framed and did not poison Ace like we thought. They may have had some part in it but I believe that there were other problems. Bane showed me that he's going to be the top frog and Christian knows it. When I put Christian next to Bane he within 30 seconds faced him and lunged at him following him around all night. Christian submitted so the hierarchy figured it's self out. Bane was being a jerk though. I didn't think he's as dominant as he is. I'll monitor them to make sure that Bane doesn't stress Christian too much. Bane and Wellsboro both in the upcoming faction and both aggressive amphibians.

    I'll make sure to show what I can for the 100 subscribers Special. Thanks everyone for following me and supporting me. I am grateful and want to give you the best video experience possible. I am looking forward to growing and producing some of the best series on YouTube and sharing it with you!

    One more announcement.
    I'm in the process of building a website for the PA Woods Vivariums and making it more professional. This will not take away from my activity on here. It will be more for helping me show companies what I have and what I am doing. So I don't have to email as detailed I can say hey look at my website. I can write up things on there but it's not a blog to talk about the weekly updates like on here. I'll try to build up the website and I'll need your help with supporting it however you can! But it's not going to take away from here it's for a different purpose. I'm trying to make the brand more professional and bigger right now. Not just building the setups and deworming the animals and not only upgrading technology but also improving and building my brand. There's a lot to be done and a lot being done. This summer will be crazy!

    Are you happy for the Gray Army that they will get their home or are you more concerned about Christian with how Bane is being?

    Are you excited for Ace and Pious they got approved to be able to breed?

    Are you excited to see the 100 subscribers special and the website? The website will take a while to get finished so it will be a while.

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    Re: New PA Woods Vivarium (Gray Tree Frogs)

    What an exciting time for the PA Woods!

    This week a lot was accomplished. I am going to wait to release details to confirm what's going on for some big news of Frog Week.

    I am going to a reptile expo to meet some members of Josh's Frogs and I will be talking to them about Frog Week. I may pick up some stuff for my exotic animals while I'm there but I'm hoping the owner is there so I can talk to him. They are honestly a great company with good intentions. They only sell captive bred animals. Moving away from Frog Week...

    Ace and Bane are officially dewormed. They finished the process and I'm happy to say new animals. I will cover them big time in the 100 subscriber special. Pious has disappeared in his quarantine tank and I think he's upset at me because I took him out of his home and he can't see Ace. He came to see her and slept near her every day. I'm waiting for him to surface and Christian has done well in his quarantine setup. He hasn't gained too much weight but maybe in a few weeks he will. For Spring break I will take both of them for their first visit to see how they are. I think it will take work for Pious but that's why he's going. I can't wait to get these two healthy and to put Ace and Pious together again and Bane and Christian together again.

    I learned that it will not be possible to keep the toads and gray tree frogs together again. Ace has been trying to eat Bane. It could be many reasons why but she's more aggressive now. It's not possible to keep them together. I hope she will still bond with Pious. I'm optimistic because she should know him. We will see though. Once I feed her heavy again it may ease her aggressive behavior. She definitely could eat a praying mantis how she's acting. That's good because it's going to be her facing one this summer.

    I have been studying a lot about the native frogs and toads even more lately. I think if something happens to an exotic setup I'm becoming very interested in the Pickerel Frog. I would try to keep them next. They are actually found in the same place as Ace and Pious. They could use help too but it will have to wait. I'm happy with what I have. I will be studying them this year. They I believe will be in Frog Week but no guarantee.

    I will be making a few care sheets this year like the Northern Leopard Frog Caresheet,
    American Toad Caresheet Part 2, Gray Tree Frog Caresheet Part 2 and a few others.

    Would you like to know more about the Pickerel Frog and do you think it would be cool to see for Frog Week?

    I have to say that I am changing the name of my Western PA Woods Vivarium. It will be called the Southwestern PA Woods Vivarium. This way we are even more specific.

    I will probably get a larger temporary tank for the Utopians meaning the Gray Army and Wellsboro. While they wait for a Biopod I'll be getting them enclosures this summer to start the Utopians Faction.

    What do you think of Ace vs a Praying Mantis? Would you be interested in seeing Wellsboro vs a Wolf Spider?

    These are some of the battles that will happen this summer. The Mantis and Spider will not be full size. They will be smaller so they can be consumed.

    Another smaller update to come tomorrow!

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    Re: New PA Woods Vivarium (Gray Tree Frogs)

    I have big news in a small update!!!

    So I went to the expo and first thing was first went to talk to Josh's Frogs and I was telling the guy at the booth about my project (Frog Week) and he actually knew what it was. He said their marketing team is following 3 projects and mine is one of them. They are going to help push my name and the project. To give you guys perspective on how big this is they have 22k followers on YouTube and 132k on Facebook. So they will bring around 160k people potentially to watch Frog Week. That's not counting their Instagram. This is a big deal! They were taking me serious and listening intently to me. They remembered my name, gave me free fruit flies and the video editor of their YouTube videos was the guy I talked to. He even gave me his private cell phone number to get in contact with him directly. It actually sounded like we might be able to work together on future projects like Seasons for the 125 gallon coming soon. I'm very excited to work with them and to have their support. They only breed or sell captive bred frogs and it's cool they want to work with someone who wants to preserve wild frogs. We agree on the conservation of all of the species and that's what brings us together they are where I'm not and vice versa. I think they will come back to PA and I'm excited to reach out to them.

    More on some unclear updates from yesterday

    So the Utopians might have to wait a while for their forever home it's like they are the Jewish people leaving Egypt. None of the animals will live 40 years so hopefully Biopod hurries up! In their place the Utopians meaning Wellsboro the Golden Toad and the Gray Army will get to live in a 30 gallon and 40 gallon. This will be the origins of the Utopians! I have renamed and organized some playlists on my YouTube so you can watch the origins of the PA Woods and the Five Lined Dumpy Family. Now we will add the origins of the Utopians this year! The Utopians will be a big part of the channel from late summer on.

    The newly named Southwestern PA Woods Vivarium is going to be owned by Ace. She has become actually more tame with her aggressive pursuit of food. She doesn't jump away from me and she's getting better at hunting again. So I am going to do some interesting research with the Utopians and the Wild West (125 gallon).

    I will add insects exclusive to certain enclosures to see what it does to the Gray Army, Wellsboro and his gang and the 125 gallon. I will add Banded Crickets and North American Giant Millipedes. The Arthropod is going to be exclusive to the Utopians. For Wellsboro and his home he will have small stone centipedes and the common house cricket. This will be unique because the centipedes may hunt the crickets but in turn the crickets may hunt the centipedes. I will also possibly feed Wellsboro spiders (small defenseless) which are also arthropods. I want to see what it does to the frogs and toads. I'm adding Millipedes not as prey but as cleanup crew for the Gray Army. The Millipedes will climb the logs that will be added to an arboreal setup and will eat the decaying logs. They will be bigger or as big as some members of the Gray Army.

    The Wild West will have no arthropods but both species of crickets and an Earwig species. I want to see what the presence of two cricket species and the earwig do with the toads and gang. We will see if adding arthropods to the diet helps or doesn't change the weight or temperament of the toads in the Utopian faction. In the Wild West the Earwig will most likely be the top insect predators as they can hunt many types of insects and in turn will take an overpopulation of baby crickets and cut them down. The crickets in turn will hunt the abundant earwig populations. We will see if the insects hunt the isopod population. A lot of cool stuff to observe!


    I also wanted to say that the Pickerel Frog who was talked about yesterday will be searched for and I'd like to learn more about them. They are a species that isn't very talked about but I find them interesting. They are first in line to join the PA Woods Community pending a disaster.

    So for a big small update are you excited that Frog Week is going to be advertised by Josh's Frogs?

    What do you think about the experiment of arthropods?

    Are you excited to see the Pickerel Frog? Also are you looking forward to seeing the rise of the Utopians?


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