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    Angolan Pythons???

    Hey all, was perusing morphmarket and came across an Angolan python that caught my eye.

    Anybody have experience with this species?

    It's not something I'm going to do any tome soon, but maybe down the road.

    Thanks in advance for any info you may be able to share.
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    Re: Angolan Pythons???

    Quote Originally Posted by craigafrechette View Post
    Hey all, was perusing morphmarket and came across an Angolan python that caught my eye.

    Anybody have experience with this species?

    It's not something I'm going to do any tome soon, but maybe down the road.

    Thanks in advance for any info you may be able to share.
    When I first joined this forum I had an Angolan Python named "Zina". Hence, my user name..

    Back then that was my Dream Snake. Back then it was also quite un-affordable to me. However, someone posted one with a "birth defect" and the price was lower. Not cheap, but lower. She had a weird scar on her belly. Higher up from where the belly button would be. A good 2 inches long. The scales in that area seemed "cut in half" in a line. Not open, of course, but they were separated. And the line seemed slightly puckered.

    I figured it was just cosmetic, so I got her.

    Boy, what a pleasure that snake was !!! Its like a Ball Python 2.0 !!! In a way it reminded me sort of how a Carpet Python grows and handles. A lot more bold, a lot less shy. However, still terrestrial like a Ball Python. She grew QUICKLY. No feeding problems at all. She was beautiful. No morph needed, her coloration and scales were exquisite. They have those round scales that slightly stick up, so pretty.

    Get bigger, too, then a Ball Python. Frankly, I'm not sure why they aren't more popular. Probably because there aren't any "morphs" ? At least not that I know of, or not like Ball Pythons.
    Whenever someone looks for a snake like a Ball Pythons but "more snake" it would be the perfect one !!!

    When she was "hunting" she would wag her tail wildly back and forth, to funny !!!

    Sadly, I found her dead one morning in her hide. Absolutely NO indication that anything at all was wrong. She usually didn't hide all that much, so after being in her hide for 2 days straight I lifted it up to check if she was in shed Up until then she ate fine, shed fine, acted fine. Later on I figured that something internally was most likely also not "right" in the area of that large scar. And as she grew, it might have caused an issue. It was devastating.

    I couldn't get a necropsy done because there are no reptile vets anywhere close from here plus she was already stiff, may have been dead for up to a day under the hide.

    This is absolutely a Dream species to work with. You would not regret it !!


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    her weird scar, kind of hard to see...NOT the belly button. The puckered up part is lower down




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    Thanks for the awesome reply!!! I'm walking out the door to work, but will reply more thoroughly after I get home.
    Thanks Zina!!!
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    Re: Angolan Pythons???

    My buddy has a pair that hes planning to breed this upcoming season. If he gets eggs from them then Im already planning to have him put my name on a female.


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    Definitely want one someday!
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    Re: Angolan Pythons???

    Quote Originally Posted by jmcrook View Post
    My buddy has a pair that hes planning to breed this upcoming season. If he gets eggs from them then Im already planning to have him put my name on a female.


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    You won't regret it. They are magnificent! And not common at all. So beautiful!


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    I have a pair of Angolans, and agree with everything Zina said - right down to the tail wagging lol

    They really are like if a Carpet, a BP, and a Common Boa got together into one snake as far personality. My female was a little snappy as a baby and will sometimes even be 'moody', especially when I've got her out while she's hungry, but she's really a sweetheart. The male was more bluff than anything else, now he's just a puppy. Literally the most gentle and trusting snake I have. Both are inquisitive and seem very visually oriented.

    Thanks to their harsher environment (the two species are separated by ~1000 miles), they're much more forgiving in terms of temperature and humidity than Ball Pythons, and don't have any of the BP eating weirdness. I mistake of feeding my female like a Ball for about her first three years. Year one and a half would have been fine in hindsight, but year three she exploded into obesity. It's taken me two years to get her down to breeding condition. They are very, very efficient.

    Will be pairing this year, hopefully they go. . . . There's actually already a plan for clutch if they do. Fingers crossed.

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    Re: Angolan Pythons???

    I have a small group of them and they are some of my favorite pythons. They are much more active and inquisitive than a ball python. They do get a bit bigger than a ball python and mine are fairly vocal when handling them but they are all very docile and easy to work with.

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    Re: Angolan Pythons???

    Mine was a sweetheart. Never even heard her hiss.
    Wonderful snakes!


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    Thank you all for the replies!!!

    They're definitely on my radar now.
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