Morphs vs localities?

[Skyrivers]

Ok. So I am wondering if some morphs are tied more to certain localities and can effect size of the animal other than SD and D (both of which are just referring to locality instead of genetics determination). Take Tiger gene. I see this predominantly on mainland's, unless breed with SD or D, and seam to be on the larger end of the scale. Are some of the other morphs tied to locality and growth in general. I know there are exceptions to every rule. Generalization and speculation accepted.

[Skyrivers]

Referred myself back to this. Geez I am dense.


Python reticulatus (Reticulated Pythons) are available in a rising number of morphs and sizes. As we progress with our collections, we are able to both shrink the size of our favorite genetics, as well as change the look of some of the classics. There are genes that range from color changers / enhancers, to pattern changers / eliminators. With a basic knowledge of genetics and how they work, we can attain a quick grasp on what outcomes will come from each crossing.

Terms to know and Key Code
Dominant: Only one copy of a gene is required for expression (Dom)
Recessive: Two copies of the gene are required for expression (R)
Mainland: The larger growing group of retics - Those who may max at or above 18' in length (M)
Super Dwarf: The smallest growing group of retics - These may max around 8' for pures (SD)
Dwarf: The middle ground between the two extremes - These may max around 10' and 16' (D)

Morph List

Clark Albino (R), (M)
- Comes in three color phases: White, Lavender, and Purple
- Only compatible with Clark Type 2 strain
- Purple x Purple = Purple, Purple x White = Lavender, White x white = White, Purple x Lavender = Lavender and Purple, White x Lavender = White and Lavender, Lavender x Lavender = White, Purple, and Lavender

Amel (R), (M)
- Similar to white phase, but extremely white and highly variable for paradoxing it seems
- Not compatible with any other form of albino
- Known as Clark type 1 strain

Indo / Caramel / Blonde (R), (M)
- Compatible with Clark Type 2 strain IF it's Foulsham Caramel (sub-strain) - End result is an Orange Glow
- Very light when born, but darker than purple albino as it ages
- Form of T+ albinism (Clark strains are T-)

Pied (R), (M)
- Ranges from low white, to high white
- OG Pied was imported to Bob Clark
- Newest Recessive on the market

Orange Ghost Stripe, (R), (D)
- Brightest Orange Single mutation available.
- Color starts out dark almost brown as a hatchling
- Contains a dorsal stripe
- A single copy of the gene is required to produce Cow retics (HOGS x Phantom) (HOGS = Het Orange Ghost Stripe)

Anthrax, (R), (M)
- Removes all pattern from the back, usually has a darkened eye, and extends the rossets into lines down the side
- Het offspring are referred to as Graniteback due to the diffused pattern observed with hets
- Originated at Prehistoric Pets
- Extremely variable in darkness or lightness

Genetic Striped, (R), (D)
- Removes all patterns except a single dorsal stripe which can be full, or broken. The fuller the stripe, the more desirable
- Het snakes can usually be observed by having a widened back pattern, and cleaner sides
- Dominant when crossed with other pattern disrupters except Goldenchild (Visual Tiger Genetic Stripes can be hard to qualify)
- Velvet is the result of breeding a Genetic Striped to a Tiger Het Genetic Striped. It is unknown why this is the way to produce it

Ghost, (R), (M)
- Proven by Ben Rennick, it is a form of albinism that looks like a faded Purple that remains dark
- Few individuals have access to these genes as of this time (4/2/2015)
- Projects done include Ghost Genetic Stripe, Sunfire Het Ghost / GS - In the works: Double het Pied Ghost, Sunstripe Ghost

Anery, (R), (SD / D)
- Found in both Super Dwarf and Dwarf Locals
- Removal of red pigment
- Key ingredient to producing snow retics (Anery Albino)
- Notated usually by high silver sides, a greenish back, and golden or silver eyes

Titanium, (Dom), (M)
- Removes all pattern and is bronze as a young snake, turning gold and brown and silver as an adult
- Color enhancer as a het (Citron)

Tiger, (Dom), (M)
- Extensions of the white dots on the side of the body
- Cuts the line across the head in half, stopping just past the eyes
- First mutation reproduced in the U.S. for reticulated pythons
- Super form is viable (super tiger)

Platinum, (Dom), (M)
- Color Enhancer, brightens to a bright yellow
- Reduces pattern slightly
- Also considered "het" for lucy
- Super forms can be three phases: Ivory, Ultra Ivory, or Black-eyed Lucy (Black-eyed Lucy are weak, and usually die unless from the Lemon Glow Platinum line)
- Albino Super Platinum are lethal around 1 year of age (Albino Ivory and presumably Albino Ultra (first one produced 2 weeks ago)

Sunfire, (Dom), (M)
- Color Enhancer, Can become burnt orange, removes pattern on the last 3rd of the body melting rosettes away
- Super form is known simply as Super Sunfire - this is an extreme reduction of side pattern, bringing forward more orange

Motley, (Dom), (M)
- Cleans the pattern on the side leaving only the dorsal markings
- Dorsal patterns typically more egg shaped in appearance
- Lightens the head coloration
- Super form is viable when crossed with another gene - but potentially weak in its pure super form
- Random mutation that appeared at Bob Clarks facility

Golden Child, (Dom), (D)
- Destroys all pattern leaving little to no rosettes, and only a black like down the center of the back
- Dominant against any other pattern changer. Adding other mutations tends to only change color, but rarely effects pattern
- Produced randomly in a clutch at NERD from a dwarf parent
- Eyes change color overtime, with many turning silver as they age

Phantom, (Dom), (D)
- Very similar to Orange Ghost stripe, but with less coloration
- Typically have very well defined scales on their head
- Key ingredient to producing Cows (Phantom x HOGS or OGS)

Tribal, (Dom), (M)
- Similar to Phantom but with less patterning on the back
- Typically has a bold T across the top of its head
- Very few in the U.S. (less than 5)

Marble, (Dom), (SD)
- New gene, very close in appearance to Phantom and Tribal, but with more contrast on back pattern
- Only 1 person in the U.S. is currently working with Marble genes (Travis Kubes)

[Skyrivers]

Titanium, (Dom), (M)
- Removes all pattern and is bronze as a young snake, turning gold and brown and silver as an adult
- Color enhancer as a het (Citron)

This confuses me a little. If dom gene they the Citron (het titanium) still has a visual presence? And is the Titanium an actual super form of the gene expressed?

[paulh]

Titanium, (Dom), (M)
- Removes all pattern and is bronze as a young snake, turning gold and brown and silver as an adult
- Color enhancer as a het (Citron)

This confuses me a little. If dom gene they the Citron (het titanium) still has a visual presence? And is the Titanium an actual super form of the gene expressed?

That is the way I interpret it. In post 2 of this thread, the genes are coded as either dominant or recessive but there is no code for a codominant mutant gene. Tiger is the only retic mutant gene that I am familiar with, and it is a codominant. I conclude that in that list, "dominant" is defined as "not recessive."