Significance of orange color near tail?

[GalaxyMom]

My first ever clutch is pinstripe (f) x pied (m), and I’m wondering if there is any significance to the orange patches on the tail ends of these girls. There was a good mix of pins and normal-looking hatchlings, but these two are the only ones with such markings. (I’ll likely be keeping the pinstripe shown here.)

Thanks in advance for any info/knowledge on this!


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[alittleFREE]

Look like ringers. Those are probably because they are het pieds.


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[Stewart_Reptiles]

It's a ringer some get pied animals have ringers from slight to extreme, most do not.

Ringers are not always a sigh that the animal is het pied either.

[GalaxyMom]

It's a ringer some get pied animals have ringers from slight to extreme, most do not.

Ringers are not always a sigh that the animal is het pied either.

Aren’t they all going to be 50% het pied and 50% het pinstripe, with some visually pinstripe?

Thank you again!


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[pretends2bnormal]

Pinstripe is not a recessive morph, you can't have a het for pinstripe. It either shows it or it doesn't. If it doesn't show, then the animal doesn't have any genes for pinstripe.

They are all 100% het pied since one parent was visual for that recessive morph.

Maybe consider reading up on genetics before continuing to breed your snakes so you know what you'll end up with. It'll help you know what they're worth and be easier to find buyers for them.

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[GalaxyMom]

Pinstripe is not a recessive morph, you can't have a het for pinstripe. It either shows it or it doesn't. If it doesn't show, then the animal doesn't have any genes for pinstripe.

They are all 100% het pied since one parent was visual for that recessive morph.

Maybe consider reading up on genetics before continuing to breed your snakes so you know what you'll end up with. It'll help you know what they're worth and be easier to find buyers for them.

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Thank you! Yes, this was an unexpected breeding, and I definitely need to learn more before any more attempts are made.


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[alittleFREE]

Pinstripe is not a recessive morph, you can't have a het for pinstripe. It either shows it or it doesn't. If it doesn't show, then the animal doesn't have any genes for pinstripe.

They are all 100% het pied since one parent was visual for that recessive morph.

Maybe consider reading up on genetics before continuing to breed your snakes so you know what you'll end up with. It'll help you know what they're worth and be easier to find buyers for them.

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Technically, all the simple hereditary genes we talk about with BPs have hets.... The difference is whether the gene is visually expressed. Pinstripe expresses the same whether heterozygous or homozygous.

Piebald only visually expresses in the homozygous form. So the heterozygous animals appear normal, but they still have a copy of the gene which can be passed on to offspring




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[pretends2bnormal]

Technically, all the simple hereditary genes we talk about with BPs have hets.... The difference is whether the gene is visually expressed. Pinstripe expresses the same whether heterozygous or homozygous.

Piebald only visually expresses in the homozygous form. So the heterozygous animals appear normal, but they still have a copy of the gene which can be passed on to offspring




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Yes, you're correct. I didn't have much time to type. And I definitely could have worded it a bit better.. I only meant that there would be no non-visible "het" like on a recessive morph like pied.

A normal looking BP cannot be a het pinstripe. No one calls a heterozygous pinstripe as "het pinstripe", only as "pinstripe".

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[alittleFREE]

Yes, you're correct. I didn't have much time to type. And I definitely could have worded it a bit better.. I only meant that there would be no non-visible "het" like on a recessive morph like pied.

A normal looking BP cannot be a het pinstripe. No one calls a heterozygous pinstripe as "het pinstripe", only as "pinstripe".

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I figured that is what you meant, I just wanted to clarify for OP since they are learning about how the genetics work.


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