Is this a cinnamon?

[timeakinga]

That’s what I am being told by the seller who also breeds. As in that it’s a cinnamon but she seems kinda dark to me but I’m told it can vary? Ahh someone help please haha.

Link to one of the photos: https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/sho...hp?i=58191&c=3

[Godzilla78]

Looks like a normal to me. My cinnamon had a more reduced ring pattern, and a browner color.

[Sunnieskys]

It looks like a cinny to me. I also cross referenced with two other breeder sites too.

[Stewart_Reptiles]

You can only trust the word of the person owning the animal, yes some cinny are just dark and there is no gain in mislabeling cinny and black pastel.

[Sunnieskys]

Is a black pastel the same as a cinny?

[Stewart_Reptiles]

Is a black pastel the same as a cinny?

They are different morphs but produce similar combos (only with black pastel it's got a deeper/darker coloration and more contrast compare to cinny) they also have the same issues when it comes to supers or even 8 ball (cinny black pastel)

[Sunnieskys]

Ah cool. Thanks Deb.

[the_rotten1]

Looks more cinnamon than black pastel to me, but I suppose it could go either way. I like my black pastels with a bit more business in the alienheads and more of a black/gold coloration. Either way, definitely not a normal.

[dr del]

Black pastels tend to have a lot more noise inside the rings - here's one of my hatchlings.

[Ax01]

Looks more cinnamon than black pastel to me, but I suppose it could go either way. I like my black pastels with a bit more business in the alienheads and more of a black/gold coloration. Either way, definitely not a normal.

Black pastels tend to have a lot more noise inside the rings - here's one of my hatchlings.

^ this. agreed that it's a dark Cinny. very nice clean alien heads too. looks like some stuck shed on part of the body in the lower part of the pix tho.