Vote for BP.Net for the 2013 Forum of the Year! Click here for more info.

» Site Navigation

» Home
 > FAQ

» Online Users: 3,563

1 members and 3,562 guests
Most users ever online was 6,337, 01-24-2020 at 04:30 AM.

» Today's Birthdays

None

» Stats

Members: 75,093
Threads: 248,535
Posts: 2,568,714
Top Poster: JLC (31,651)
Welcome to our newest member, Amethyst42
Results 1 to 7 of 7

Thread: Any advice?

  1. #1
    Registered User
    Join Date
    03-21-2018
    Location
    Houston, Texas
    Posts
    188
    Thanks
    38
    Thanked 177 Times in 75 Posts

    Any advice?

    I posted last week about a male Carmel albino hatchling that I purchased from a local reptile show. I noticed a few days after I had him (I put him in his tub when I got him home and didn't handle him for a couple days) that he had a head wobble similar to a spider. I immediately got on here and looked and asked if this was a known issue with this particular morph. While I learned there are some possible issues with breeding, head wobble isn't something that Carmel albinos are known for. I emailed the breeder and very politely asked if they had noticed any issues with this animal or the morph in general. They contacted me back and said that the Carmel albinos are known for head wobble and as long as he's eating and pooping ok (which he is, he eats like a champ!) that he was gonna be fine. Since he is eating and pooping fine, do I take his word for it and enjoy how beautiful he is (he really is a stunner!) or do I push the breeder a little and tell him I don't think this is normal for this morph? Any advice or info would really help.

  2. #2
    Registered User
    Join Date
    08-30-2018
    Location
    Louisiana
    Posts
    142
    Thanks
    19
    Thanked 76 Times in 37 Posts
    I wouldn't worry with it too much since the snake is functioning properly and is healthy.
    1.1 Ivory Burmese Pythons 0.1 Albino Granite Burmese Python
    1.0 Orange Glow Retic 0.1 White Albino Retic 0.1 Purple Tiger Retic
    1.0 Anaconda Hognose 1.0 Hognose DBL Het Snow
    0.0.1 Red Tail Boa
    1.0 Albino Blitz BP
    0.1 Pastel Het Pied BP
    1.0 Pastel Leopard BP
    0.1 Pastel Vanilla BP
    0.1 Super Phantom BP
    0.1 Spinner Enchi BP
    0.1 Albino Kingsnake

  3. #3
    Registered User Knowell's Avatar
    Join Date
    06-23-2018
    Location
    Edgewater, Fl
    Posts
    213
    Thanks
    119
    Thanked 129 Times in 81 Posts
    Images: 7

    Re: Any advice?

    Chances are if he made it this far that he will live a long and healthy life. Spiders are one of the most produced genes out there and known for wobbles also but yet are thriving! Where are the pics!?!?!

    Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G900A using Tapatalk


    1.0 banana bee
    0.1 butter pastel
    0.1 pastel
    0.1 mojave het clown
    1.2 DH albino pied
    0.1 OD YB pastel
    1.0 nuclear (butter,fire)
    0.1 lavender albino het pied
    1.1 enchi clown / clown
    0.1 superfly sugar
    1.0 freeway

  4. #4
    Registered User Scooda954's Avatar
    Join Date
    08-18-2018
    Posts
    22
    Thanks
    10
    Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post

    Re: Any advice?

    I personally avoid anything that has the spider gene in it, maybe it has some?

  5. #5
    Registered User Knowell's Avatar
    Join Date
    06-23-2018
    Location
    Edgewater, Fl
    Posts
    213
    Thanks
    119
    Thanked 129 Times in 81 Posts
    Images: 7

    Re: Any advice?

    A caramel I'd a seperate gene but like champagne and HGW it is also known for wobble. I have a banana bee with spider in it and it exhibits minimal wobble. If I didn't know about it I wouldn't even be able to tell.
    Quote Originally Posted by Scooda954 View Post
    I personally avoid anything that has the spider gene in it, maybe it has some?
    Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G900A using Tapatalk


    1.0 banana bee
    0.1 butter pastel
    0.1 pastel
    0.1 mojave het clown
    1.2 DH albino pied
    0.1 OD YB pastel
    1.0 nuclear (butter,fire)
    0.1 lavender albino het pied
    1.1 enchi clown / clown
    0.1 superfly sugar
    1.0 freeway

  6. #6
    BPnet Senior Member AbsoluteApril's Avatar
    Join Date
    03-05-2014
    Location
    Utah
    Posts
    2,080
    Thanks
    2,325
    Thanked 2,605 Times in 1,296 Posts

    Re: Any advice?

    Quote Originally Posted by bhsurf4 View Post
    They contacted me back and said that the Carmel albinos are known for head wobble
    Caramels are more likely to have kinks and female have low fertility but wobble is not one of their issues.
    Here's a list of most known snake morph issues:
    http://www.owalreptiles.com/issues.php

    There's either another gene in the mix causing the wobble or another issues caused it such as trama or overheating.
    ****
    For the Horde!

  7. #7
    Registered User Knowell's Avatar
    Join Date
    06-23-2018
    Location
    Edgewater, Fl
    Posts
    213
    Thanks
    119
    Thanked 129 Times in 81 Posts
    Images: 7

    Re: Any advice?

    I thought the kinking and deformities were only when you bred visual to visual AKS homozygous to homozygous?
    Quote Originally Posted by AbsoluteApril View Post
    Caramels are more likely to have kinks and female have low fertility but wobble is not one of their issues.
    Here's a list of most known snake morph issues:
    http://www.owalreptiles.com/issues.php

    There's either another gene in the mix causing the wobble or another issues caused it such as trama or overheating.
    Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G900A using Tapatalk


    1.0 banana bee
    0.1 butter pastel
    0.1 pastel
    0.1 mojave het clown
    1.2 DH albino pied
    0.1 OD YB pastel
    1.0 nuclear (butter,fire)
    0.1 lavender albino het pied
    1.1 enchi clown / clown
    0.1 superfly sugar
    1.0 freeway

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v4.2.1