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    Re: BP Unusually Small?

    Quote Originally Posted by tttaylorrr View Post
    that is extremely dangerous and, frankly, stupid.
    If you don't agree with someone probably best not to insult them, especially if your don't know them or their experience.
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    Re: BP Unusually Small?

    Quote Originally Posted by Damage, Inc. View Post
    If you don't agree with someone probably best not to insult them, especially if your don't know them or their experience.
    Regardless of experience, feeding live prey any larger than a hopper, which at 264 grams this snake will be eating at least a small adult mouse, is extremely dangerous and irresponsible.
    It's also extremely bad advice to offer to newcomers. If you're willing to roll the dice with your animals that's your call. But please don't advise new keepers to practice dangerous feeding techniques.
    You'd probably feel pretty lousy if your advice was the reason OPs new snake ended up with a trip to the vet for mouse/rat bites.
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    Re: BP Unusually Small?

    Quote Originally Posted by craigafrechette View Post
    Regardless of experience, feeding live prey any larger than a hopper, which at 264 grams this snake will be eating at least a small adult mouse, is extremely dangerous and irresponsible.
    It's also extremely bad advice to offer to newcomers. If you're willing to roll the dice with your animals that's your call. But please don't advise new keepers to practice dangerous feeding techniques.
    You'd probably feel pretty lousy if your advice was the reason OPs new snake ended up with a trip to the vet for mouse/rat bites.
    100% this. Snakes have been severely injured by unsupervised live feedings before, some leading to gruesome deaths, and I mean REALLY gruesome. If anyone doesn't believe me, google it but be warned the results are graphic.
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    Re: BP Unusually Small?

    Quote Originally Posted by Heartley View Post
    Welp. Guess I figured out the problem. Apparently he was still feeding her hopper mice. Im gonna try some smaller mice and try to work her up to eating larger prey once she gets used to the size change. Then I guess I'll switch her to rats. Not too pleased with the guy who gave her to me, but hey, all I can do now is make sure she transitions to rats smoothly.
    I keep (ONE) frozen mouse in my freezer at all times for any new arrivals that were on mice. I never feed that mouse, it is only there to rub it onto a thawed rat pup. You can rub the frozen mouse all around the rat pup without really thawing the frozen mouse then just put the mouse right back into the freezer. The snake's sense of smell is probably it's strongest sense of all so it don't take a lot of scenting to get them to pick it up. This has worked for me every time.

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    Re: BP Unusually Small?

    Quote Originally Posted by Damage, Inc. View Post
    If you don't agree with someone probably best not to insult them, especially if your don't know them or their experience.
    i didn't mean to insult you personally, as that really wasn't my intention, but unsupervised live feedings is a stupid practice, full stop.

    Quote Originally Posted by craigafrechette View Post
    Regardless of experience, feeding live prey any larger than a hopper, which at 264 grams this snake will be eating at least a small adult mouse, is extremely dangerous and irresponsible.
    It's also extremely bad advice to offer to newcomers. If you're willing to roll the dice with your animals that's your call. But please don't advise new keepers to practice dangerous feeding techniques. You'd probably feel pretty lousy if your advice was the reason OPs new snake ended up with a trip to the vet for mouse/rat bites.
    bingo, this was the only reason i chimed in and made a point with my post. it's important for new keeps to understand the risks, and i made sure to use strong language to emphasize that.

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