Male Super Dwarf Retic or Male Suriname BCC

[jmcrook]

My mistake, Gene is 25% SD 25% dwarf. So we have Gene at about the same size as Caesar who is 37.5% SD 31.5% dwarf. Then we got Wallace who is i believe 37.5% SD and 43% dwarf who is slightly smaller than Caesar and Gene. Then we got Gerald who is 50% SD and around 6 feet i think. And then we got Phyllis who is just a monster. Pure Kalatoa and like 10 feet.

Gerald is 8’ now, but very lean. Haven’t weighed in a while but I think he’s still under 10lbs


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[Sauzo]

Gerald is 8’ now, but very lean. Haven’t weighed in a while but I think he’s still under 10lbs


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Wow, he's possible bigger than Caesar then lol. From watching Caesar in his cage, I would guess he would be 8 foot tops but he looks more between 7-8. And Gerald is 50% SD. This is why i question all the people who try and give concrete sizes for SD crosses. Between all our snakes, we have such a big variance in percentages, yet all our snakes are close in size with the exception of Phyllis who should technically be the smallest of the lot yet she is a monster lol.

Caesar has a lot more girth it sounds like but not the length.

[jmcrook]

Wow, he's possible bigger than Caesar then lol. From watching Caesar in his cage, I would guess he would be 8 foot tops but he looks more between 7-8. And Gerald is 50% SD. This is why i question all the people who try and give concrete sizes for SD crosses. Between all our snakes, we have such a big variance in percentages, yet all our snakes are close in size with the exception of Phyllis who should technically be the smallest of the lot yet she is a monster lol.

Caesar has a lot more girth it sounds like but not the length.

Yeah there is no guaranteed definite size for SD. I feel like the average size is more like 6-10’ than this 5-7’ average that people like to talk about. A 5’ retic is an Indonesian corn snake lol. Although some people say kayuadi is a SD island but some of that locale can hit 12’+.
When they’re 8’ they just don’t look like it because they’re relatively thin. If I had never seen Gerald go around the back and both sides of his T8 I wouldn’t guess he was that long. Totally covers those three sides or one long sized twice easily. I haven’t had a Red Bull in years but he’s probably as thick as those cans at the very most.


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[Sauzo]

Yeah there is no guaranteed definite size for SD. I feel like the average size is more like 6-10’ than this 5-7’ average that people like to talk about. A 5’ retic is an Indonesian corn snake lol. Although some people say kayuadi is a SD island but some of that locale can hit 12’+.
When they’re 8’ they just don’t look like it because they’re relatively thin. If I had never seen Gerald go around the back and both sides of his T8 I wouldn’t guess he was that long. Totally covers those three sides or one long sized twice easily. I haven’t had a Red Bull in years but he’s probably as thick as those cans at the very most.


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Hmm so he is probably only slightly thinner than Caesar. Caesar is probably a little thicker than a redbull can but thinner than a coke can.

And yeah, this 5-7 feet SD thing i think is breeders trying to be conservative to sell their animals lol. So far out of all our SD hybrids, they seem to be around the 8 foot mark.

[AbsoluteApril]

Here is a video from Garret Hartle where he explains the mainland X SD vs. SD X mainland and percentage sizes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjs6v3CDIjc

thank you for the link! Don't know if I buy the theory but Garret does have a lot of good info and experience.

And yeah, this 5-7 feet SD thing i think is breeders trying to be conservative to sell their animals lol.

Yes that is very true.

Both of our SD adults are between 7-10' and I'd consider them small.
(75% kalatoa (SD) 12.5% jampea (dwarf) - we backtracked to find the original breeder through three hands to finally confirm the %, they had been listed incorrectly at time of purchase as 87.5% SD, probably because that would raise the value or perhaps simple misunderstanding of the terms)

[Gio]

Hmm so he is probably only slightly thinner than Caesar. Caesar is probably a little thicker than a redbull can but thinner than a coke can.

And yeah, this 5-7 feet SD thing i think is breeders trying to be conservative to sell their animals lol. So far out of all our SD hybrids, they seem to be around the 8 foot mark.

That's about the size of Wallace, a Red Bull can, but he keeps getting longer. He's got to be 7.5 - 8 feet.


Topping at 9 is where I feel comfortable handling solo, unless he stays lean. The SD blood usually keeps them a bit thinner at least.

And really, 9-10 feet is a dwarf size in the retic world.