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    Way to bright for a normal I think. A stunner for sure!
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    Re: A morph or no?

    Does anyone else have any thoughts? I’ve been googling and making comparisons to known morphs as well and will post up what I think after more research. Thanks!
    As of July, 31st, 2018... (I think)
    1.0.0 - Albino Pastel Black Pastel Pinstripe -384g ('18)
    1.0.0 - Albino Candy - Candino ('17)
    1.0.0 - Super Pastel Butter ('18)
    1.0.0 - Pastel Calico - 735 ('16)
    1.0.0 - Lesser Pastel - 1344g ('16)
    1.0.0 - Black Pastel - 1680g ('15)
    1.0.0 - Mojave Mystic - Mystic Potion ('16)
    1.0.0 - Spotnose Spider
    1.0.0 - Black Head ('16)
    0.1.0 - Lesser ('14)
    0.1.0 - Orange Dream Pastel Spider - 453g ('17)
    0.1.0 - Pied ('17)
    0.1.0 - Pastel Black Pastel Spider ('16)
    0.1.0 - Hypo Enchi Butter - 310g (‘17)
    0.1.0 - Leopard (‘17)
    0.1.0 - Orange Ghost ('16)
    0.4.0 - Dinker YB ('17/18)
    0.1.0 - Pinstripe Spider - Spinner ('18)
    0.1.0 - Fire YB Brownie - 148g ('18)
    0.1.0 - Columbian Red Tail Boa ('18)
    0.1.0 - Pastel -1 544g ('15)
    0.1.0 - Yellow Belly (rescue) ('13)
    0.1.0 - Wild Type ('16)
    0.1.0 - Spinner
    0.1.0 - Spinner ('18)
    0.0.1 - Pinstripe Spider - Spinner ('17)
    0.0.1 - Wild Type (rescue) ('?)
    0.1.0 - Dinker ('18)
    0.0.1 - Spinner ('17)
    All to probe when I find the time.

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    I’m confident calling him a yellowbelly. However I would think the phantom yellow belly would be darker and more blushed.

    We have a couple of hobbiests on the site who work with phantom/mystic, maybe one of them will chime in.

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    Re: A morph or no?

    I have been wondering. What is the definitive difference between a normal and a yellowbelly. Also, how can you identify it through thier colors and patterns?

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    A morph or no?

    I have pretty much narrowed it down to Phantom #2 + Spark ... phantom looks like it has more “cherios” and mine has more alien heads like Phantom #2

    This is pretty much my snake ... ... still investigating yellow belly.

    Thoughts?

    Thanks for everyone’s input thus far!


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    Last edited by Spechal; 05-13-2018 at 09:39 PM.
    As of July, 31st, 2018... (I think)
    1.0.0 - Albino Pastel Black Pastel Pinstripe -384g ('18)
    1.0.0 - Albino Candy - Candino ('17)
    1.0.0 - Super Pastel Butter ('18)
    1.0.0 - Pastel Calico - 735 ('16)
    1.0.0 - Lesser Pastel - 1344g ('16)
    1.0.0 - Black Pastel - 1680g ('15)
    1.0.0 - Mojave Mystic - Mystic Potion ('16)
    1.0.0 - Spotnose Spider
    1.0.0 - Black Head ('16)
    0.1.0 - Lesser ('14)
    0.1.0 - Orange Dream Pastel Spider - 453g ('17)
    0.1.0 - Pied ('17)
    0.1.0 - Pastel Black Pastel Spider ('16)
    0.1.0 - Hypo Enchi Butter - 310g (‘17)
    0.1.0 - Leopard (‘17)
    0.1.0 - Orange Ghost ('16)
    0.4.0 - Dinker YB ('17/18)
    0.1.0 - Pinstripe Spider - Spinner ('18)
    0.1.0 - Fire YB Brownie - 148g ('18)
    0.1.0 - Columbian Red Tail Boa ('18)
    0.1.0 - Pastel -1 544g ('15)
    0.1.0 - Yellow Belly (rescue) ('13)
    0.1.0 - Wild Type ('16)
    0.1.0 - Spinner
    0.1.0 - Spinner ('18)
    0.0.1 - Pinstripe Spider - Spinner ('17)
    0.0.1 - Wild Type (rescue) ('?)
    0.1.0 - Dinker ('18)
    0.0.1 - Spinner ('17)
    All to probe when I find the time.

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    Re: A morph or no?

    Quote Originally Posted by Nz2500 View Post
    I have been wondering. What is the definitive difference between a normal and a yellowbelly. Also, how can you identify it through thier colors and patterns?
    If you do a quick search on this forum or Google you should come up with some nice photo comparisons, but YB have a very clean belly that is edged by some checkering before going to the side pattern. Sorry I don't have any belly shots of Sunny to show.
    BALL PYTHONS: 1.0 Pied/Clark, 1.0 Pastel Vanilla Super Stripe/Sunny, 0.1 Dragon Fly/Buffy, 0.1 Pastel Vanilla Yellow Belly/Cher, 0.1 BEL (Mojave Lesser)/Arya, 0.0.1 Normal/Norm, 0.1 Cinnamon Enchi/Peaches, 1.0 Cinnamon Calico/Yoshi, 0.1 Pewter Het Dreamsicle/Ariel
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    Re: A morph or no?

    Ok cool! And thanks!

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    Re: A morph or no?

    Quote Originally Posted by Trisnake View Post
    I’m confident calling him a yellowbelly. However I would think the phantom yellow belly would be darker and more blushed.

    We have a couple of hobbiests on the site who work with phantom/mystic, maybe one of them will chime in.
    Me too, based on limited experiences, I think that's what drew to me Spark instead of Pastel, especially since Spark (het Puma) shows flames and lighter coloring. Headstamp is there too.
    Last edited by Spechal; 05-13-2018 at 11:22 PM. Reason: Headstamp
    As of July, 31st, 2018... (I think)
    1.0.0 - Albino Pastel Black Pastel Pinstripe -384g ('18)
    1.0.0 - Albino Candy - Candino ('17)
    1.0.0 - Super Pastel Butter ('18)
    1.0.0 - Pastel Calico - 735 ('16)
    1.0.0 - Lesser Pastel - 1344g ('16)
    1.0.0 - Black Pastel - 1680g ('15)
    1.0.0 - Mojave Mystic - Mystic Potion ('16)
    1.0.0 - Spotnose Spider
    1.0.0 - Black Head ('16)
    0.1.0 - Lesser ('14)
    0.1.0 - Orange Dream Pastel Spider - 453g ('17)
    0.1.0 - Pied ('17)
    0.1.0 - Pastel Black Pastel Spider ('16)
    0.1.0 - Hypo Enchi Butter - 310g (‘17)
    0.1.0 - Leopard (‘17)
    0.1.0 - Orange Ghost ('16)
    0.4.0 - Dinker YB ('17/18)
    0.1.0 - Pinstripe Spider - Spinner ('18)
    0.1.0 - Fire YB Brownie - 148g ('18)
    0.1.0 - Columbian Red Tail Boa ('18)
    0.1.0 - Pastel -1 544g ('15)
    0.1.0 - Yellow Belly (rescue) ('13)
    0.1.0 - Wild Type ('16)
    0.1.0 - Spinner
    0.1.0 - Spinner ('18)
    0.0.1 - Pinstripe Spider - Spinner ('17)
    0.0.1 - Wild Type (rescue) ('?)
    0.1.0 - Dinker ('18)
    0.0.1 - Spinner ('17)
    All to probe when I find the time.

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    Re: A morph or no?

    Quote Originally Posted by Nz2500 View Post
    I have been wondering. What is the definitive difference between a normal and a yellowbelly. Also, how can you identify it through thier colors and patterns?
    Quote Originally Posted by WhompingWillow View Post
    If you do a quick search on this forum or Google you should come up with some nice photo comparisons, but YB have a very clean belly that is edged by some checkering before going to the side pattern. Sorry I don't have any belly shots of Sunny to show.
    the telltale signs can be subtle given the variation within the morph but some other things to look for include the marking on the head and flames - blushing that comes up from the belly between the pattern.

    Quote Originally Posted by Spechal View Post
    I have pretty much narrowed it down to Phantom #2 + Spark ... phantom looks like it has more “cherios” and mine has more alien heads like Phantom #2

    This is pretty much my snake ... ... still investigating yellow belly.

    Thoughts?

    Thanks for everyone’s input thus far!
    the pattern looks like a clash of BEL and an enhancer gene, there's a good mix of alien heads, cheerio's/speech bubbles and attempted cheerio's/speech bubbles. your Spark (combo) theory is a good one.

    regardless - u definitely have a morph. it's just unknown which enhancer and BEL gene is all in there IMO until it's proven out.

    Edit: pair it to a YB or Mojo and see if a Puma or Passion/Potion or BEL animals hatches.
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