Surprise! I think it's Genetic Stripe

[rlditmars]

If you been following my breeding thread you've seen the clutch I just hatched. The pairing was 1.0 Leopard Pinstripe X 0.1 Pastel Mojave. Out of 9 hatchlings, 8 were all predictable results based on the pairing. However, one was not. The pic below is is after shedding and yes, those bands that lack color are really there.

I've done a lot of searching the internet and combing through pictures over the last week or so. The only realistic explanation I can arrive at is that both animals were het G-Stripe. I feel pretty confident that is at least Pastel Pinstripe Genetic Stripe but I believe it's possible there's more, either Leopard, Mojave or both. Won't know without proving it out. I've also added a pic of Mom who has very prominent striping for a Mojave Pastel. Since the sire was a Pinstripe a picture wouldn't shed any additional light.

I invite the experts to offer other explanations. Let the opinions fly!

[Craiga 01453]

I'm no help with morph ID, so just chiming in to say that's a beautiful little snake, regardless.

That would be pretty cool if the breeding pair were both proven out het g-stripe.

Good luck sorting it out! Thanks for sharing.

[cchardwick]

Nice! The best way to really prove it out would be to breed it with a known Genetic Stripe, then you'll know for sure. It could just be a Leopard Mojave combo, many times when you have those two genes you get striping. My guess is that it's a Leopard Mojave Pastel Pinstripe. Here's another one below. Almost looks like something else could be in the mix like Champagne.

[cchardwick]

Actually from the lighter head stamp it almost looks like Super Patel, could be a Super Pastel Mojave Leopard Pinstripe. Maybe your Leopard Pinstripe male is a low expression Pastel...

[Lord Sorril]

Do you have G-Stripe or Specter kicking around in the background of your population?

I have Orange Ghost that refuses to die in my population even with near impossible odds, and I'm always like wtf is this weird color on my hatchlings?

[rlditmars]

Actually from the lighter head stamp it almost looks like Super Patel, could be a Super Pastel Mojave Leopard Pinstripe. Maybe your Leopard Pinstripe male is a low expression Pastel...

I had already considered that. The Leo Pin was created from a Leo Spider X Blonde Blast pairing that Jon Courtney (Cold Blooded Addiction) produced. Since it was a Blonde Pastel combo which is supposed to be brighter, if Pastel were present I would expect my guy to look more like a Leo Lemon Blast. He does not. Here is a pic of the male. If you want to see a good pic of him as a hatchling go on Jon's website. This guy is the picture in the Collection section under Leopard Pinstripe.

Also, I saw the picture of the one Dynasty is selling and that was what I was expecting. Mine is so much more devoid of pattern or color.

[Stewart_Reptiles]

My guess would be it's the Mojave and leopard influence not genetic stripe.

[tttaylorrr]

i'm not sure about Super Pastel but my gut is telling me there's Mojave in there. Leopard Mojave Pastel Pinstripe???

EDIT: does anyone else see that section of lighter color on the last 1/3 of the body?

[rlditmars]

My guess would be it's the Mojave and leopard influence not genetic stripe.

That was my original guess was it was just the four genes. And I hope you're right because I stress out with mystery animals. What puzzles me though is here are pictures of three, 3 gene combo siblings, Leopard Pastel Pinstripe, Leopard Pastel Mojave, and Leopard Mojave Pinstripe. When I look at these it seems strange that adding just one more gene to any of these combos would wash out the color and pattern so much. The picture cchardwick posted of the animal Dynasty produced still has pattern and looks brownish like I would have expected with these 4 genes combined. It's a little brighter than my Leopard Pinstripe, but it has Pastel so I would expect it to be.

Leopard Pastel Pinstripe


Leopard Pastel Mojave


Leopard Mojave Pinstripe

[rlditmars]

Do you have G-Stripe or Specter kicking around in the background of your population?

I have a 0.1 Enchi Pastel OD that is het for G Stripe. Unfortunately she is 350 grams so won't find out anything soon.

EDIT: does anyone else see that section of lighter color on the last 1/3 of the body?

It isn't just you or your computer. There are actually about 2 or 3 sections on this snake that looks like a light band where the yellowish tint isn't there. I don't know how to explain that either but it may fade/blend with time.