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    Re: What genes are not supposed to be crossed with the spider gene ?

    Quote Originally Posted by dr del View Post
    Not entirely acurate - no homozygous spiders have been reported but there are viable offspring from the pairing. The hgw and champagne morph mixtures however have a higher percentage chances to throw absoluteloy train wreck animals.
    Might wanna browse this thread, I'm pretty damn sure what we are looking at is a super spider.

    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/show...Spider-results

    Also took a video to show it was still alive at the time.

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    Re: What genes are not supposed to be crossed with the spider gene ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Joelgriz8124 View Post
    The local breeder near me told me that if you bread spider to spider the babies would not survive ? Your saying this isn’t true ?


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    The super spider doesn't survive, the regular spider and normal offspring do just fine.

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    Re: What genes are not supposed to be crossed with the spider gene ?

    Quote Originally Posted by OhhWatALoser View Post
    The super spider doesn't survive, the regular spider and normal offspring do just fine.
    Thank you for all the info I appreciate it !


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    Re: What genes are not supposed to be crossed with the spider gene ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Alter-Echo View Post
    Basically anything in the spider/Neuro complex, as listed on owal website. When you combine any of them bad things happen.

    As far as what to pair with your snakes, it's up to what you like, but if they were my snakes, I'd probably get a male with enchi and or ghi because enchi looks great with banana and ghi looks great with Mojave. Fire enchi could be a good choice as well.

    As far as getting another female, a fire pinstripe or fire pastel calico could really mesh well with your male bumblebee.
    Just looked up some banana enchis I think that’s what I’m going to go for


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    Re: What genes are not supposed to be crossed with the spider gene ?

    Off topic a little....

    Are there any morph combos to avoid with Reticulated Pythons as well?

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    Re: What genes are not supposed to be crossed with the spider gene ?

    Unfortunately, all spiders will have some sort of wobble. The degree of wobble will vary from animal to animal. Some will show a minor wobble, that is apparent when feeding, while others wobble all over the place. It’s not entirely understood.

    Also, some spiders that show a moderate to severe wobble can get better with age and vice-versa.

    OWAL’s site has some invaluable information and is a great site to bookmark and go back to when needed.


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    Re: What genes are not supposed to be crossed with the spider gene ?

    My Caramel Albino Spider has ZERO wobble .....he's about 3 years ( maybe just under ) .




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    Same with my blackbee mojave orange ghost, zero wobble, even when she's stressed.

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    We have had our female albino spider for over 3 years. Steady as a surgeon's hands.
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    Re: What genes are not supposed to be crossed with the spider gene ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zincubus View Post
    My Caramel Albino Spider has ZERO wobble .....he's about 3 years ( maybe just under ) .




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    That said I wouldn't dream of breeding him ..


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