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    How many ball python combinations are there?

    I was having a conversation about ball pythons with a neighbor who knew nothing about snakes. I told him that it was all about making neat combinations of different genes. His response was, 'hasn't everyone made all the possible combinations yet?'. That got me thinking, how many possible combos are there?

    So I decided to look into this a little further. According to the latest numbers on World of Ball Pythons there are 308 base morphs. I also decided to use an online 'Combinations and Permutations Calculator'.

    https://www.mathsisfun.com/combinato...alculator.html

    According to the math there are 308 single gene mutations possible.

    And there are 47,278 double gene combos possible.

    And with three genes 4,822,356 combos

    And four genes 367,704,645 combos

    And five genes 22,356,442,416

    That's 22 BILLION possible five gene combos!!!


    (This assumes no repetition allowed and the order is not important)
    Last edited by cchardwick; 04-04-2018 at 03:08 PM.


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    Re: How many ball python combinations are there?

    The limits of the combos is our understanding of them. I am sure one day when we master genetics on a molecular level we will invent a few more.

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    And.... there are still new base morphs being found every year... so that number will keep going up. Not sure we will ever run out of new mutations... makes me wonder why ball pythons mutate so much in the first place, compared to other reptile species the number of morphs is staggering.

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    Re: How many ball python combinations are there?

    Quote Originally Posted by Alter-Echo View Post
    makes me wonder why ball pythons mutate so much in the first place, compared to other reptile species the number of morphs is staggering.
    Hard to know if that's even the case since we collect and breed 100x more ball pythons than any other species. Look at how many retic morphs exist relative to the small number of WC/CB animals. Even western diamondbacks, which are kept by maybe 100 people in this country, have 7-8 recessive morphs now.

    I'd also ask the opposite question about crocodilians. We've captured and farmed literally millions of alligators and uncovered a grand total of 1 mutation. Nature's perfect predator, I guess.

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    at least 7
    4.4 ball python
    1.0 Albino 0.1 Coral Glow 0.1 Super Cinnamon paradox 1.0 Piebald 0.1 Pastel Enchi Leopard het Piebald 1.0 Coral Glow het Piebald

    1.0 corn snake
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    1.0 crested gecko
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    0.1 cat
    0.1 Maine Coon mix

    0.1 human ✌︎

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    Re: How many ball python combinations are there?

    Quote Originally Posted by cchardwick View Post
    how many possible combos are there?
    So why are most BP breeders seemingly satisfied with repeating existing combinations?

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    Re: How many ball python combinations are there?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ernie Mccracken View Post
    So why are most BP breeders seemingly satisfied with repeating existing combinations?
    Some are so nice it's kinda hard to improve on them, classics, if you will.

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    Re: How many ball python combinations are there?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ernie Mccracken View Post
    So why are most BP breeders seemingly satisfied with repeating existing combinations?
    Perhaps they are treating them like I phones?

    Sent from my N9560 using Tapatalk

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    Re: How many ball python combinations are there?

    Quote Originally Posted by tttaylorrr View Post
    at least 7
    Good answer! 😂

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