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    Just Regurged..

    I just witnessed my banana ball regurging. The tub is right next to me so I heard weird sound and saw him doing this.. I thought he had muscle twitch or something cause his body was all weird.. but he did this. Provided a video link from youtube and pics of regurge. As for my husbandry, he was moved from 15 qt to 6 qt couple weeks ago since the size chart indicated that he could do well in 6 qt, he is 150 g. Hot side at 88-90. Cool side 77-80. Humidity level at 60-65%. He ate live adult mouse about 18g on 3/11 and 3/15. He had fine poop on 3/18 and 3/20 which is after meal. He is on 4 day schedule. Before 3/11, he refused 3 meals. And about a month ago, there was fur in his tub, I did not witness how that came out but it was pure fur, no poop or urate. Maybe that was also regurge? What could be causing him to regurge? Measured with temp gun, have herpstat thermostat, water fresh. I feel like this one is also a fur, from looking at it. Stomach problem? Maybe less handling? I don’t handle after he eats for two days, then like 5-10min a day for two days and feeding again. Help me! What is wrong with this baby!
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    looks like a regurge from here...but you'd know one if you smelled it; they will literally smell like death.

    you need to figure out what caused the regurge. regurgitations are caused by: not enough heat, bad feeder, a spook!, or too much handling before digestion.

    in the meantime, your immediate actions are: no offering food for 3 weeks, keep water fresh, triple-check husbandry for like a week (multiple times a day if possible), and observe.
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    Re: Just Regurged..

    Quote Originally Posted by tttaylorrr View Post
    looks like a regurge from here...but you'd know one if you smelled it; they will literally smell like death.

    you need to figure out what caused the regurge. regurgitations are caused by: not enough heat, bad feeder, a spook!, or too much handling before digestion.

    in the meantime, your immediate actions are: no offering food for 3 weeks, keep water fresh, triple-check husbandry for like a week (multiple times a day if possible), and observe.
    Could this be vomiting? because from my search, regurge is something that hasn't reached the stomach to digest, but this he digested other parts but the fur and throwing that out. Since he pooped two times, feels like digestion happend but the fur did not get digested... I don't see any factors of him possibly doing it because, I don't consider him as bad feeder, husbandry I check 2~3 times a day, I don't handle him for 2 full days and even then, not so long. I am contacting the vets but so hard to find exotic vet.. one I know, she went somewhere for few months. Should I try offering him less often? I did feed him right sized meal but maybe he needs more time between feedings?
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    Re: Just Regurged..

    Quote Originally Posted by gusanr14 View Post
    Could this be vomiting? because from my search, regurge is something that hasn't reached the stomach to digest, but this he digested other parts but the fur and throwing that out. Since he pooped two times, feels like digestion happend but the fur did not get digested... I don't see any factors of him possibly doing it because, I don't consider him as bad feeder, husbandry I check 2~3 times a day, I don't handle him for 2 full days and even then, not so long. I am contacting the vets but so hard to find exotic vet.. one I know, she went somewhere for few months.
    vomiting would happen immediately after swallowing. anything that comes back up instead of passing all the way through is a regurgitation. the definition of regurgitation explains partial digestion.

    a bad feeder, meaning the prey item you fed might have been bad.
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    Re: Just Regurged..

    Quote Originally Posted by tttaylorrr View Post
    looks like a regurge from here...but you'd know one if you smelled it; they will literally smell like death.
    watch the video, he caught it regurging

    That's a small tub for such a wide temp range but temps are usually the culpruit. Was this the 3/15 feeding? So 5 days after the fact?
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    Re: Just Regurged..

    Quote Originally Posted by tttaylorrr View Post
    vomiting would happen immediately after swallowing. anything that comes back up instead of passing all the way through is a regurgitation. the definition of regurgitation explains partial digestion.

    a bad feeder, meaning the prey item you fed might have been bad.
    Okay, I understand. I already called vet, doctor is in a meeting but she will give me a call back later. I know it can happen, but considering that there was a fur last time too, makes me think this is second time he regurged.

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    Re: Just Regurged..

    Quote Originally Posted by AbsoluteApril View Post
    watch the video, he caught it regurging

    That's a small tub for such a wide temp range but temps are usually the culpruit. Was this the 3/15 feeding? So 5 days after the fact?
    so he was fed on 3/15, this happened today, 3/20. So 5 days after feeding. Yes, I thought that it seems small but I saw the tub size chart so I thought it would be fine. However, I am moving him to 15 qt tub so he can better thermoregulate.

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    Re: Just Regurged..

    Quote Originally Posted by AbsoluteApril View Post
    watch the video, he caught it regurging

    That's a small tub for such a wide temp range but temps are usually the culpruit. Was this the 3/15 feeding? So 5 days after the fact?
    i just started drinking my afternoon coffee, my reading comprehension will be back in a moment. that's totally a regurge.

    EDIT: so 5 days after feeding did the snake regurge. okay.
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    Re: Just Regurged..

    Quote Originally Posted by gusanr14 View Post
    so he was fed on 3/15, this happened today, 3/20. So 5 days after feeding. Yes, I thought that it seems small but I saw the tub size chart so I thought it would be fine. However, I am moving him to 15 qt tub so he can better thermoregulate.
    i'd like to see this chart you mention. for my own edification.
    Last edited by tttaylorrr; 03-20-2018 at 03:26 PM.
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    Re: Just Regurged..

    Quote Originally Posted by tttaylorrr View Post
    i'd like to see this chart you mention. for my own edification.
    Not like an official chart I guess, but saw from the forum while searching. It was 6 qt for hatchling to 200 g, then move up to 15 qt till like 500 ~600 g then 28/32 qt as adult. Females usually in 41 or bigger. He was and is at like 140~150 g so thought 6 qt could work for him. But I am out to buy 15 qt.

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