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    AP T8 heating

    OK, got a question i'm fighting to figure out. I'm getting a baby retic shortly from prehistoric pets and have a AP T65 on order. Yes I know that is WAY too big right now and my thinking was I don't want to have to buy another down the road. I just wanted to buy one cage that would last a lifetime for that animal. Well I've come to the conclusion that I probably need a smaller cage for now (probably 1st year). I'm looking at the AP T8 to house the retic for now. My question is will the 11" flexwatt they provide be adequate heating, my house gets down to 68 degrees, or should I spend the extra and get an RHP. I've already bought 4 RHP's from Bob at Pro Products for the 2 T65's I've ordered and am trying to be as cheap as possible on this T8. Any suggestions?

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    Re: AP T8 heating

    Either heat the room warmer or yeah, you'll need an RHP for your T8. They hold heat well but the flexwatt won't do anything to raise the ambient temp


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    AP T8 heating

    Quote Originally Posted by smvmarine View Post
    OK, got a question i'm fighting to figure out. I'm getting a baby retic shortly from prehistoric pets and have a AP T65 on order. Yes I know that is WAY too big right now and my thinking was I don't want to have to buy another down the road. I just wanted to buy one cage that would last a lifetime for that animal. Well I've come to the conclusion that I probably need a smaller cage for now (probably 1st year). I'm looking at the AP T8 to house the retic for now. My question is will the 11" flexwatt they provide be adequate heating, my house gets down to 68 degrees, or should I spend the extra and get an RHP. I've already bought 4 RHP's from Bob at Pro Products for the 2 T65's I've ordered and am trying to be as cheap as possible on this T8. Any suggestions?
    If your running Herpstats you can use one of the Panels you bought from Bob. If its a large one like my 150 watt i just run it on lower power % and its perfect.
    On another note.. If you have several hides and other things that snake would me fine... Some people may disagree, but clutter the enclosure and provide 3- 4 hides and some fake plants & he will be livin large IMO.
    Always can use the divider for now too.


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    Re: AP T8 heating

    I always find it strange when some people say a cage is "too big". How can an enclosure ever be bigger than nature lol
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    Re: AP T8 heating

    Quote Originally Posted by Valaryan View Post
    I always find it strange when some people say a cage is "too big". How can an enclosure ever be bigger than nature lol
    It's to big for the owner in most cases. It's alot harder to keep proper temps and humidity in a large enclosure

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valaryan View Post
    I always find it strange when some people say a cage is "too big". How can an enclosure ever be bigger than nature lol
    You here this mostly with the other species that stress easily without security..but with wood, leaves and several hides in a 8 foot enclosure they would be living the life!!! Burms & Retics are confident animals and love to explore.


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    Re: AP T8 heating

    Quote Originally Posted by smvmarine View Post
    OK, got a question i'm fighting to figure out. I'm getting a baby retic shortly from prehistoric pets and have a AP T65 on order. Yes I know that is WAY too big right now and my thinking was I don't want to have to buy another down the road. I just wanted to buy one cage that would last a lifetime for that animal. Well I've come to the conclusion that I probably need a smaller cage for now (probably 1st year). I'm looking at the AP T8 to house the retic for now. My question is will the 11" flexwatt they provide be adequate heating, my house gets down to 68 degrees, or should I spend the extra and get an RHP. I've already bought 4 RHP's from Bob at Pro Products for the 2 T65's I've ordered and am trying to be as cheap as possible on this T8. Any suggestions?
    First off, you wont need a smaller cage. Just give that cage a bunch of climbing stuff, some plastic/silk plants, a few hides, some PVC tubes to play with and that snake will be happy.

    As for heating, if your house gets down to 68F, you will for sure need a RHP. Flexwatt is not going to compensate for that much of a difference. I keep my room around 77-79F and just use flexwatt.

    Bottom line, skip the T8 and just use the T65 and spend all that cash you would have spent on the T8 to buy stuff to deck out that T65 and enjoy until the retic gets bigger and bulldozes everything and you end up not being able to give him/her cool stuff cause he/she gets stuck in it, breaks it, poops on it or buries it.

    A cage can never be too big. A cage can be too sparse though.
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    I concur. a small space can be created in a large space. I have said this many time and practiced it with a tiny hatchling even! Provide multiple small hides and black out all but one side... boom, SUPERIOR to a tiny enclosure, as you have the security without the confinement.

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    Also bigger cages tend to be easier to get a good temp gradient. The smaller the cage, the less space you got to work with.
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    Re: AP T8 heating

    Quote Originally Posted by c0r3yr0s3 View Post
    It's to big for the owner in most cases. It's alot harder to keep proper temps and humidity in a large enclosure
    A lot of them say the animal will get stressed out and stop eating. Seems like BS to justify keeping them in drawers imo.
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