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    Re: My first snake! Not what I expected ...

    Quote Originally Posted by dakski View Post
    First of all, baby colubrids are mostly bark and no bite. A lot of hysterics. Even they do bite you, it won't hurt, and as stated, don't put him back. It will teach him that biting gets him what he wants.

    Secondly, the best lesson for baby colubrids I can think of is SUPPORT! All snakes like to be supported, but colubrids don't have the same muscle/body makeup of say, boids. So they don't just like the support, they NEED the support. Even my adult corn snake, Figment, likes to feel completely supported when handled. Babies will want their entire body supported. They also will probably not like being squeezed, at least initially. You are big, they are small, and they know it. Their initial response is going to be SURVIVAL, thinking you will probably eat them! Once that goes away, they should calm down, but I would limit handling to short sessions initially.

    Finally, I would begin handling in the tank. I did this with my baby geckos too. They like to run, so the worst case, they run off my hand into the tank and drop an inch.

    I would pick him up and let him slither through your hands gently so he gets used to you and your scent, etc.

    Not sure the demeanor of your little guy, or his species, but this has worked well for me.

    Figment was 9G when I got him. He was flighty, but not bitey. After a couple of weeks, I could handle him no problem and he's been awesome ever since. However, I started with slow handling and observed the above rules.

    Good luck and keep us in the loop!
    This is awesome and I’ll be saving this for reference !!!


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    Re: My first snake! Not what I expected ...

    Quote Originally Posted by Prognathodon View Post
    Putting him back after striking the one time (or down the road some day when he’s having a bad day) isn’t going to be a big deal, it’s the pattern of behavior that’s important.


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    I agree and hope so. I was gonna give him tomorrow to chill and try again on Wednesday. Then let him chill for his Friday meal. And so on and so forth.


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    Re: My first snake! Not what I expected ...

    So handling session #2 went really well. Thanks to all who helped with tips. He seemed much calmer and so was I and I think it went really well. He was really chill and his tongue was flying about as he just checked things out he wasn’t even that flighty. He kinda wrapped all up in my hand and was having a good time. I kept him really supported. Stayed away from his head and incorporated some slow yet deliberate strokes to him as I held him so he knew he was comforted and safe. It seemed to really work well. I hope this is a sign of things to come as he’s just a gorgeous creature and I love seeing him out and admiring his great colors and markings.


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    Re: My first snake! Not what I expected ...

    Sounds encouraging. As you progress you’ll get more confident on reading his body language, too.


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    Re: My first snake! Not what I expected ...

    Quote Originally Posted by Prognathodon View Post
    Sounds encouraging. As you progress you’ll get more confident on reading his body language, too.


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    Thanks, I sure hope so! I’m learning little by little I guess it just takes time practice and patience!

    today we had an interesting handling time. I’m not sure why but I tried the paper towel thing because he seems to have a hell of a feed response for a little guy. Well he didn’t like the roll at all and struck it about 3 times before I got rid of it. Now he’s only struck me once on our first handle and I got too close to his head for sure. Maybe he didn’t like the roll in front of him and near his head so he popped

    usually I lift the hide and remove it and let him adjust for a few as I change his water and check on the tank. Today he stayed coiled in the hide spot and when I went to move him a bit w the roll he struck. I almost gave up on it but I didn’t want him to think that striking equals he gets left alone so I let him move a bit and picked him up mid body. He was pretty good when I held him. He didn’t strike me but he’s def very head shy as it seems most snakes are especially colurbrids.

    So I guess no more roll. Just my usual routine cause he seemed to be doing well with that.

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    Re: My first snake! Not what I expected ...

    Sounds good. And at that size even if he does tag you it’s more surprising than painful - angry velcro!


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    Re: My first snake! Not what I expected ...

    Quote Originally Posted by Prognathodon View Post
    Sounds good. And at that size even if he does tag you it’s more surprising than painful - angry velcro!


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    very true lol. I just don’t want it to become a habit or a constant. I don’t think it will he’s a baby and it seems common for them and for the most parts he’s good. I’m gonna keep my routine.

    Today he seened out snd about. Tomorrow is feeding day I wonder if he’s hungry and I should step up jus food. Is there a chart for colurbrids like the one for balls?

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    Re: My first snake! Not what I expected ...

    Finally got my scale and a weight on this one... he/she. Still not sure but based on my research and apparently a difference in tail based on the sex, bumble may be a she... weighed in at 16g

    I’m going to start feeding two pinks a sitting every 5 days or so now... see how that goes.

    Bumble was great during handling today even rested her head on my fist. She did not like the scale though. Sat for 2 seconds in the bowl and took off. Almost dove off the table ! Then proceeded to pee and poop all over me which has never happened I guess she didn’t like it.




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